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LHADON TETHONG: The history of Tibetis one that is rich with religionand also very bright, colorful traditions of dance and song.While Tibet is located close to China,north of Nepal and India, it has influencesfrom all of those areas.So much is incorporated inside of Tibet, but at the same,Tibet was so isolated, the way of life

LHADON TETHONG [continued]: there is really unique to that elevation.It's the highest elevation in the world.The plateau.The roof of the world.It was an independent nation when China invaded in 1949.The communists took control of China,they invaded Tibet from the east, and for the next 10 years

LHADON TETHONG [continued]: sort of took control of Tibet in a waythat it became an absolutely desperate situationfor the Tibetan government.Since 1959, the Dalai Lama has lived in India,and probably 135,000 Tibetans livewith the Dalai Lama and the Tibetan government,which functions in exile.

CHARLOTTE PRIDDLE: Over the following decade,the people began to rise up, and they began to fight back.From that point on, the repressionreally become extremely severe.

LHADON TETHONG: The Chinese governmentlaunched a direct attack on anybodywho was a Tibetan government official,or anybody within the monasteries and the nunneries.

CHARLOTTE PRIDDLE: We're talking about 6,000plus monasteries destroyed.We're talking about thousands, tens of thousands,of Tibetan lives lost.

LHADON TETHONG: If anybody was found outto be doing anything that broke Chinese law,they were imprisoned, tortured.And some people spent more than 30, 40 years in jail,and their crimes were no greater than havinga picture of the Dalai Lama or having practicedTibetan Buddhism within their home.

SPEAKER 1: Free Tibet now!

CROWD: Free Tibet now!

SPEAKER 1: Free Tibet now!

CROWD: Free Tibet now![NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]

LHADON TETHONG: Palden Gyatso is a Tibetan monkwho spent more than 33 years in prison inside of Tibetfor taking part in a demonstrationand for putting up a poster.That was his crime.He was beaten, and tortured, and brutalizedin ways that are beyond belief.[NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]

LHADON TETHONG [continued]: They strung him up by his arms from the ceiling, his shoulderspopping out of their joints, and justpassing out from the extreme pain.Another thing that they quite regularlyuse on Tibetan political prisoners are cattle prods.Electrified prods that you would use on cattleto make them move along, they would use on people.

LHADON TETHONG [continued]: On the nuns, they would rape them with these cattle prods.They stuck the cattle prod into his mouth.They broke his teeth.The electric shocks themselves were so intense that, in fact,all of his teeth fell out of his head.[NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]

LHADON TETHONG [continued]: He was released from jail, finally,under pressure from Amnesty International and a letterwriting campaign.Palden didn't just leave, escape Tibetlike so many people do right away.He went back to the prison and he actually bribed the guardsto give him some of these instruments of torturethat were used on him and used on the other prisoners,and he brought them when he escaped from Tibet into India.

LHADON TETHONG [continued]: What that did for the rest of the world was,it gave people a visual image, the actual instrumentsof torture that were used on him.[NON-ENGLISH SPEECH]One of the most striking things about Palden's storyis how he doesn't harbor any hatredfor the people who did these things to him.

LHADON TETHONG [continued]: He doesn't harbor any hatred for the Chinese government.He truly embodies the ideals of Tibetan Buddhism,of love, of compassion, even for one's enemy.

LORNE STOCKMAN: Tibet is a very resource-rich country.Tibet has vast copper reserves, a lot of gold reserves,and a lot of minerals that China desperatelyneeds for its own economic development.The resources are extracted, taken straight outof the region, and used to fuel economies which don't really

LORNE STOCKMAN [continued]: trickle down in any way to the Tibetan economy.For 50 years, Tibetan people havebeen suffering an occupation in which they'vebeen brutally dealt with when they have voicedany dissent to their occupation by the Chinese government.50 years on, there are very little signs of the Chinese

LORNE STOCKMAN [continued]: loosening their grip.In fact, they're tightening their grip,because suddenly technology has advancedwhich has enabled them to extract the natural resourcesthat they've always known is there.

LHADON TETHONG: When you look to what Tibet representsin this time, which is sort of uncertain,I think, for all of us, the ideals of nonviolenceand compassion, I really do believeit is symbol for our world, especially for our generationand for the youth right now, to what is possible.[MUSIC PLAYING]

SPEAKER 2: Ready?

SPEAKER 3: Yeah.

SPEAKER 2: What do you know about corner wars?Ill, for real, we'll even give you the tour.You don't have to just take it from us.You can get on the bus.You're going to believe it when you see it for yourself.[MUSIC PLAYING]

ARUN PABHAKARAN: Good afternoon.I want to welcome you all to the Drug War RealityTour, a project of the Kensington Welfare RightsUnion.My name is Arun Prabhakaran.The Kensington Welfare Rights Unionis a multi-racial organization of poor and homeless families,and people working to end poverty in the United States

ARUN PABHAKARAN [continued]: and worldwide.We do these tours to educate people and build a movementto end poverty in this country, and documenteconomic human rights violations.

ARUN PABHAKARAN [continued]: So now we're going into what we like to term Ground Zero.For a number of years, Kensingtonhas been synonymous with poverty,with the sex trade, the drug trade, and basicallythe depths of human misery, and so we call this Ground Zero.

GALEN TYLER: This one right here, Ithink they come out after school lets out.You know what I mean?They sell dope and heroin right here.I could tell you like myself, I doa lot of organizing on the corners,talking to these young guys that are selling drugs, straight up,because I know them and stuff.You know what I mean?I used to be out there with them.

GALEN TYLER [continued]: I ask them, if you had a choice of risking your life standingon a corner selling drugs and worrying about going to jailand stuff like that, would you rather do that or would yourather want to go work at McDonald's.They'd be like, fuck no, I'm not goingto work at McDonald's, $5.25 an hour,when I can actually sell drugs on a cornerfor like five hours a day and make

GALEN TYLER [continued]: more than most people make in a month.That's real.That's real.

ARUN PABHAKARAN: What happened is,you find that most of the people who are using drugsas a means of income are family people.People with children who are doing itas supplemental income.It's not the hardened criminal.It's not the young boy on the street, the thug.I mean, most of the drug transactionsare family people selling drugs for survival.

GALEN TYLER: And it didn't just happen overnight.You know what I mean?People just don't pick up out of the blue and say,I want to be on crack.People don't just pick up overnightand say I want to be a drug dealer.People are fed up with just not beingable to have some type of dignity,and when you rise to the top in the drug game,

GALEN TYLER [continued]: you get some type of dignity where people look up to youfor some type of reason.[MUSIC PLAYING]

ARUN PABHAKARAN: Kensington didn't always usedto be a drug place.It used to be a textile manufacturingcenter for the north.It was one of the major manufacturinghubs of the country.They used to say, if you walk down an American street,you lost your job, you can find one in five minutes.OK?Now try to find a job now.I don't see one.

ARUN PABHAKARAN [continued]: So why don't we just go on in historyand look at why did that happen.Why are there so many homeless people in this area?Why are there so many people who are poor?Why are there such bad schools and all of these things?[MUSIC PLAYING]

WILLIE BAPTIST: In Kensington as a whole,there's two main sources of income.One is public relief, welfare.We call it welfare.And the other one is drugs.It's the money that change hands as a result of drugs.Drugs are here because there's no jobs here.Drugs are here because there's no health care.Drugs are here because the housing is deteriorating.

WILLIE BAPTIST [continued]: I mean, the drug economy is taking the placeof a legitimate, vibrant economy that'sfit for the dignity of human beings.Instead of dealing with these conditions,they've labeled this whole community as Badlands,as to suggest that the people here are not decent people who

WILLIE BAPTIST [continued]: are trying to strive to hold their families together,to fight under very difficult conditions, and so forth.

ARUN PABHAKARAN: And so what we want to dois just point out the fact that our perceptions of this problemare being managed.We are told things about people who are poor.That they're lazy, they're crazy,that they don't have any worth in society,or people who are on drugs, the same.And so one of the things that this doesis it makes it OK for people to be

ARUN PABHAKARAN [continued]: treated in a less than human way.

WILLIE BAPTIST: You wouldn't havethe kind of drug happenings taking placewithout the complicity of the police.You have right here on this corner here of Somerset,just open sales of drugs, of needle exchange, and so forth.The police are very much aware of it.Everybody's aware of it.Everybody knows about it.And it's been here for years.It's been here as long as I've been in here.And yet, there's been all this talk about war on drugs,

WILLIE BAPTIST [continued]: and yet it still persists.And not only does it persist.It gets worse.[MUSIC PLAYING]

ARUN PABHAKARAN: And so when we talk about the drug war,we have to understand that it functionsin a very specific way.It functions in the form of chemical warfareon the people of this country, and the peoplethroughout the world.It destroys people's lives, their thinking, their minds.People are like time bombs walking through the community.And a lot of people here can testify to that experience.

WILLIE BAPTIST: And when you lookat the overall pattern of how this thing plays itself out,what happens is, a community that would ordinarilyexplode because of these conditions,in organization and social movementsto challenge the policies that put themin this kind of predicament, communities thatwould do that are not doing that,because they are preoccupied imploding.

WILLIE BAPTIST [continued]: They're not exploding.They're imploding.They're up against each other.

ARUN PABHAKARAN: There is a social, political, historicalreason for why these drugs are in these communities,and there is our policy objective to be gained.That's why we call it a drug war,because war is the means by which you use weaponsto gain policies, directives to get those things when it's notpossible to gain them by political or social means.

WILLIE BAPTIST: It's clear that there'sforces at play that are using the deterioration,and the consequences, and devastation of the drugepidemic and the deteriorating economic conditionsto begin to create a situation where they canpush the poor out of the urban areasand try to attract the so-called creative class, the educated

WILLIE BAPTIST [continued]: class, the higher incomes into the inner citiesto try to create an infrastructure thatwould attract investments.And so what you see is an accelerationof this pushing the poor into the periphery.That process is clearly underway,and that is a clear trend.[MUSIC PLAYING]

ARUN PABHAKARAN: A lot of times, we always look at the problemand say, oh, if people just stop using drugs.If they could just get some self control and stop doing that.It's some kind of character defect.Because the problem is always puton the individual in our society,that if somebody were just strongerand just make a different choice, that somehowthe drugs wouldn't be there, in their bodies,

ARUN PABHAKARAN [continued]: and in their hearts and their minds.But the thing is, you live in these communities,and we're going to see it, that you realize that the drugs arenot there in people's bodies because they'remorally defective.It's not because they're damaged goods.

TARA COLON: My mother died when I was 16.I didn't get along with my father at the time.I left home and 18 and thought I couldget a job after high school.I graduated with honors.I've never done drugs in my life.But my life has been deeply affected by drugs.I don't know anybody who hasn't had their life somehow affected

TARA COLON [continued]: by drugs.Me personally, Junior is a recovering addict,and that's really hard.

JUNIOR RIVERA: I can't hardly describe.It's unavoidable.Once you make up your mind that you want to use,it doesn't matter what.You will go and use.You will have no regard for anyone.

TARA COLON: After I found out that he was doing crack,I gave an ultimatum.Either you go get help or you never see this child.You will not be here when it's born,and I will never have anything to do with you.And he did.He went right into rehab.

JUNIOR RIVERA: Came out through poverty,came out through being homeless still,and came out through streets where anywhere you went,you would find drugs.

TARA COLON: Junior grew up poor, and thatcomes with a lot of baggage.Baggage that I never had.

JUNIOR RIVERA: You don't want to accept this.The blame is put on you all the time.They'll say, you're poor, you're homeless, it's your fault.So I started using to try to escape the reality of poverty,homelessness, and so on.

TARA COLON: I am so hurt, and so angryevery time that he picks up and uses.I love him and I hate him at the same time.

JUNIOR RIVERA: Let's say I have moneyand I'm supposed to pay rent.Instead of paying rent, I would use that money to use drugs.

TARA COLON: And then I also have a larger consciousness thattells me that it isn't only him.It's not an individual responsibility.A 14-year-old kid did not make a decisionto become a drug addict.

JUNIOR RIVERA: I was able.I was lucky enough to go into a program,because I had to actually take some pills like I wascommitting suicide in order for them to accept me.

TARA COLON: And even a 36-year-old man does not makethe decision that he cannot get quality health care to getquality rehabilitation, that the programs aren't availablefor him.

JUNIOR RIVERA: It's a shame that youhave to do things like that, but if you justgo into a program saying, look, I need help,if you don't have insurance, you're screwed.They will not.They will turn you down instantly.You have to go through welfare and go through this,and if you don't qualify, you're out.There's thousands of people the same situation.

TARA COLON: What he does hurts me in a real, personal way,and I don't have the answer.I don't have the answer for him.I don't have the answer for me.I don't have the answer for my children.

JUNIOR RIVERA: People don't realize that healthcare and addiction, they go one on one.

TARA COLON: And I told Junior this,and I'll tell anybody who's on drugs.Every time they get a hit, they let the system win.Every day they stay clean, they'redefying the system that wants to control all of us.

JUNIOR RIVERA: We know.We realize the things that we do.What we don't understand is why we keep doing them.And we want to find a way out, and the only way outwill be helpful for mental health and health care.And if we don't get either one of them,how are we going to make it out?

TARA COLON: I am going to create some consciousnessin every person who wants to recover that it's not justabout their individual recovery.It's about recovery in the community.[MUSIC PLAYING]

ARUN PABHAKARAN: In order for people to be able to get clean,you can't go back to a situation where you are homelessand just free of drugs.You need to be able to go back to a place to live,which is an economic human right.You need to be able to go back and havefood, which is an economic right.You need to be able to have the basic necessities of life,all protected by economic human rights,

ARUN PABHAKARAN [continued]: all systematically violated by the US government.Right now, we're going towards New Jerusalem Recovery House.This will be the last stop for our friendsfrom New Jerusalem, brothers and sisters.One of the things I want to say isthat New Jerusalem is unique.

ARUN PABHAKARAN [continued]: [MUSIC PLAYING]New Jerusalem actually believes this, not only ina political way, but they believe this in a spiritual,like rebuilding people from the inside.

ARUN PABHAKARAN [continued]: Rebuilding people to know what theydeserve as people on this planet.And so we really share a certain special camaraderiewith this organization, and we'regoing to go see what they're all about right now.

SISTER SHEILA: Hi.How are you doing?Does everyone have a chair?We have more in the other room, if you'd like to bring it in.I would say recovery is really something that everyone needs,

SISTER SHEILA [continued]: but we're specifically speaking of recovery from addictions,and mostly from drug and alcohol.And one starts to look at the world and some of the systemsthat are so deadly in the person's possibilities.For example, if someone has been convicted of a felony

SISTER SHEILA [continued]: for possessing a certain amount of ounces of crack cocaine,they will receive no financial aid during that time.American Society, at least, is so individualistic,what's the antidote for individualism but community?And I've lived in a religious community over 45 years.

SISTER SHEILA [continued]: We're pretty honest with each other,but I've never heard the level of honestythat I have heard in the recovery community.And I've never seen also the level of compassion.When a brother or a sister is really hurting,everything stops.

SISTER SHEILA [continued]: When someone says, are all hearts and minds clear,and we've been sitting at a meeting for three hours,and it's Thursday night, and people have been working,some people have gone to work at 4:00,whether you feel like it or you don't feel like it,and someone says no, we all sit back downand we listen to that person.

SISTER SHEILA [continued]: You know, we say we have faith.Well, faith in what?I'm always asking people.In whom?I say we have faith in life.In life, whatever it is, and especially if it's difficult.If one's past has been extremely painful, is that the last word?

SISTER SHEILA [continued]: If one believes in life, I don't think so.And though I don't think I would be as courageous as manyof our people, I do believe that's true,and I have received far more than I have evergiven the years that I've been here.Far more.And it's the most exciting place I have ever worked.

SISTER SHEILA [continued]: And not only do I work, I'm part of the community.Thank you.

ARUN PABHAKARAN: And so, just wantto remember that this is that worldwide, nationwide,every city in America problem.A lot of people like to say it's only in certain places,but then that just really reinforcesa lot of stereotypes that are untrue.One of the things we want people to understand from this touris that there's over three billion people living

ARUN PABHAKARAN [continued]: in poverty worldwide, and 70 to 80 million people whoare living in poverty or close to poverty in the UnitedStates.And what we want people to understandis, the only way, with such a tremendously huge problem,to solve it is to build a movement in this country.Build a movement to end poverty and endthese economic human rights violations,and part of that is the right to recovery and the right

ARUN PABHAKARAN [continued]: to health care, and that people need,if they're going to make it out there in the world tryingto get off drugs or recover their communities,there needs to be social support set in there.And we can't end the drug war without ending the rootcause of it, and we really do feel like it's poverty.[MUSIC PLAYING]

GALEN TYLER: When people can't see their families and stufflike that, they do a lot of irrational things.Start selling drugs, robbing, prostitution, you name it.And that's how people are going to be able to say,oh, I'm not just going to sit back and lay down and just die.Like, I'm not going to just sit here and waitfor President Bush or somebody to say, OK,we're going to come and pass a new law to ensure

GALEN TYLER [continued]: that everybody's got some type of way of eating,because if people wait on that, you'dstarve to death in your house.

WILLIE BAPTIST: My name is Willie Baptist.I'm from the Kensington Worker Rights Union,I'm formerly homeless, and you'rewatching the Guerrilla News Network.All right, bro.

ANDREA PRITCHETT: I don't think very many people reallyunderstand that the rise of the modern police forceis directly correlated to industrializationin the Northeast that, as factories were growingand employing lots of very poor people,there was social tension.These poor workers wanted their rights,and at times, they would strike to get them.

ANDREA PRITCHETT [continued]: And so the factory owners would hire some big, burly guysto put down that unrest.And that's the origin in the Northeast of the policedepartments.In the south, it was related to controlling slavesand to patrolling the areas of free blacks.So it's pretty racist in its foundation.[MUSIC INNER CIRCLE, "BAD BOYS"]

JACOB CRAWFORD: I've been doing films for a few years,and I've really been in to documentary.And seeing that there's a real issue of police brutalityin the East Bay, I decided to take my camera outto the streets and really trying to document what was going on.

SPEAKER 4: You know, hanging around scenesand traffic stops is unsafe for you.I know who you are, I know what you do.

JACOB CRAWFORD: OK, then it's all good.

SPEAKER 4: And legally, you can do it, but if you get shot,don't even think about your family suing us.

JACOB CRAWFORD: I wouldn't even consider it, officer.

SPEAKER 4: Because it would never happen.

ANDREA PRITCHETT: CopWatch started in 1990 in responseto a pattern of gentrification thatwas happening on Telegraph Avenue.Telegraph was a very vibrant cultural center.It had a lot of young people, a lot of peopleof different cultures, and we alsohad a lot of homeless people, and the policewere being used to drive homeless people outof the area, and they were also being used to harass and arrest

ANDREA PRITCHETT [continued]: activists, young people of color whowere congregating in the area.So we felt that we needed to, step by step, document whatwas happening so that we could effectively communicateand to begin to bring to the attention of the public,and the city officials, and the press--

SPEAKER 5: Sean, I'm kind of curious.Can these people get in any troubleby following police with cameras?

SEAN: A very good, legitimate question.Actually, they're OK legally, as longas they are on public property, and as longas they don't interfere with any of the police activitythey intend to tape.While I'm in the newsroom--[MUSIC PLAYING]

ANDREA PRITCHETT: Initially, the police were hostile,I have to confess, and they would tell us to back up.

SPEAKER 6: Can I ask you to step back please?

ANDREA PRITCHETT: They would tell us to get out of here.

SPEAKER 7: There's no loitering at liquor stores.

ANDREA PRITCHETT: They would threaten to arrest us.

SPEAKER 8: Ma'am, to the side walk,or you're going to be under arrest.

ANDREA PRITCHETT: And it's been a process of acclimating themto our rights as guaranteed to us in the Constitution.Are you familiar with the policy of the Berkeley PoliceDepartment to put the least amount of restrictionpossible on civilian observation of the police?

SPEAKER 9: OK.

ANDREA PRITCHETT: Just wanted to let you know.

JACOB CRAWFORD: In America, as long as you are in public spaceand you are not interfering with an officer,you have the right to observe them.Don't let any officer tell you anything otherwise.

SPEAKER 10: Hey, excuse me.

JACOB CRAWFORD: What's the problem?

SPEAKER 10: Don't photograph in that way.

JACOB CRAWFORD: Why?

SPEAKER 10: Why?Because it's a crime scene and you're not entitled to.How's that?

JACOB CRAWFORD: I can't film it?Are you saying that I cannot film it?What are you saying?Just explain yourself.

SPEAKER 10: I'm just saying stay out of the area right now.You can just go back on that side of the street.Whatever you want to shoot from there is fine, but--

JACOB CRAWFORD: OK.The only complications come when you are in imminent danger,where a crime is being committed and the officers are tryingto apprehend a person, and or you'reon private property, in which caseyou don't have any right to be there anyways.When we're out cop watching on an organized shift,we go out in a couple cars or on foot.

JACOB CRAWFORD [continued]: They both have their uses.And our intentions are to do a few different things.Number one, to document police in the course of their duty.

SPEAKER 11: What do I have a warrant for?

SPEAKER 12: You have a warrant for a traffic violation.

SPEAKER 11: For what?Man, I don't have any traffic violations.Man, I-- Man, don't hurt me.

JACOB CRAWFORD: But it's also really importantthat you go out there with the intention of really tryingto make a situation better.If you make an officer angry, for instance, that officerwill probably take it out on somebody else later,if not right then and there on you or that personthat they're detaining.So it's very important to approach an officerlike it's a wild animal.

JACOB CRAWFORD [continued]: Slowly, not from behind.You don't want to scare an officer because, unfortunately,they are dangerous and they are equippedwith weapons that are lethal.[MUSIC PLAYING]

ANDREA PRITCHETT: Sometimes we go out cop watchingand we don't observe any violence,we don't observe any misconduct, and Ihave to remind people that that's a good thing.We're not out there fishing for the big one.That's a good night when nothing bad happens.[MUSIC PLAYING]Cop watching has several functions.If we're doing a walking shift, we'llspend our time passing out know your rights cards

ANDREA PRITCHETT [continued]: and giving them information about their rights,letting people know that they have some rights.[MUSIC PLAYING]You've got the right to privacy.So just because an officer asks to see your ID,you have the right to say, officer, am I being detained.If an officer can't articulate a reasonable suspicion

ANDREA PRITCHETT [continued]: to believe that you have been involved in a crimeor are about to be involved in a crime,you should be free to leave.And we also recommend that, don't consent to a search.You never have to consent to a searchunless you've actually been arrested.OK.We're going down town.Now, let me tell you some things.You stand up.

SPEAKER 13: Excuse me, sir.

ANDREA PRITCHETT: OK, now, we're going to do this easy,or we're going to do this hard.

SPEAKER 13: Now, you've got two choices.You can either stand up--

SPEAKER 14: He didn't do anything wrong.

SPEAKER 15: You haven't told me I'm being stopped or detained.

ANDREA PRITCHETT: I told you you were being detained.I don't have to answer your questions.You're being detained.

SPEAKER 15: For what?

ANDREA PRITCHETT: On suspicion of drug activity.

SPEAKER 15: You have no probable cause.

ANDREA PRITCHETT: I absolutely have pro-- You know what?You can tell it to the judge.Now, you can stand up and turn around,let me put the hand cuffs on you,or I'll beat the shit out of you right here.

SPEAKER 15: Go ahead, then.[MUSIC PLAYING]

ANDREA PRITCHETT: You know, for a lot of people who reallydisagree with the way this country functions,it's a step out of it.I think that it's a step of independence,and I think it's a step of saying that we're notgoing to tolerate this anymore.We don't want this kind of police state.We're tired, and we demand more.We demand better treatment.

ANDREA PRITCHETT [continued]: [MUSIC PLAYING]

SPEAKER 16: I bet they don't likegetting their pictures taken.

ANDREA PRITCHETT: Officer, aren't you involvedin an investigation?

SPEAKER 16: Yeah, I'm investigating you.You might be terrorists.

ANDREA PRITCHETT: On suspicion of what charges?

SPEAKER 16: You might be terrorists.[MUSIC PLAYING]

EDWIN BLACK: The information age was not born in Silicon Valley.It was born in Berlin in 1933.When I say the information age, I specificallymean the individualization of statistics.

EDWIN BLACK [continued]: This leap across the labyrinth of human understandingoccurred when the Hitler regime wantednot only to control its population,but to persecute its individual citizens.

EDWIN BLACK [continued]: IBM knocked on their door.They said, you have a problem, we have a solution.IBM is the solutions company.What I discovered was that there was no solutionthat the solutions company was unwilling to formulatefor the Third Reich.[MUSIC PLAYING]

EDWIN BLACK [continued]: IBM was, of course, aware what the technology wasbeing used for, because they had to ask not only whatinformation was to go in to a punch card application,but what information the Nazis wanted to bring out of it.By cross tabulating 24,000 cards per hour,the Reich could quickly identify exactly how manyJews of Polish extraction were in Berlin.

EDWIN BLACK [continued]: [MUSIC PLAYING]All of the Nazi atrocities were vastlyheadlined in the newspapers of the day,and so Thomas Watson was aware that Adolf Hitler was

EDWIN BLACK [continued]: persecuting the Jews, stealing their assets,and getting them ready for the worstforms of physical destruction, even extermination.And Watson had promulgated the beliefthat people should disregard this.That this was just politics.And his idea was that it was never

EDWIN BLACK [continued]: about Nazism, the National Socialism.It was only about the money.And what he told people is, ignore the morality.Go for the money.It was the almighty dollar.There is an almighty, and his name ain't Dollar.[MUSIC PLAYING]

EDWIN BLACK [continued]: They controlled their Nazi-occupied subsidiariesthrough Switzerland, and everything ultimatelyfunneled down to an office in New York.It was globalization before you knew the word existed.It was globalization before the wordappeared in the English language.

EDWIN BLACK [continued]: IBM danced on the head of the pin to stay within the law.They were, in fact, engaged in illegal participationin genocide.Anyone, anyone in the world, could call IBMand ask them open their Polish archives.

EDWIN BLACK [continued]: Open their French archives.Open their Dutch and Brazilian archives.They won't do it, and they won't tell you why.[MUSIC PLAYING]

EDWIN BLACK [continued]: When people discerned atrocities,they see the redness of the blood.They see the blackness of the tragedy.What they need to understand is behind thatis the green of money and finance,and we need to draw a line.

EDWIN BLACK [continued]: A moral line.[MUSIC PLAYING][MUSIC PLAYING]

DONALD RUMSFELD: On the president's order,coalition forces began the ground warto disarm Iraq and liberate the Iraqi people.Our objective is to bring down a regime thatthreatens the American people with weaponsof mass destruction, and to secure Iraq's oil fieldsand resources, which belong to the Iraqi people,

DONALD RUMSFELD [continued]: and which they will need to developtheir country after decades of neglect by the Iraqi regime.[MUSIC PLAYING]

SPEAKER 17: A campaign of, quote,"Shock and Awe," as the Defense Department callsit is underway against Iraq.It's not the ultimate, all out air campaign, but it's big.It's huge.Some would say, humongous.

SPEAKER 18: Because this division has so much armorand firepower, it is sometimes called--

SPEAKER 19: The Third Infantry Brigadehave charged across the desert in a formation fourkilometers wide.This was hard, relentless driving, taking the column120 miles deep inside Iraq.

SPEAKER 20: Aircraft and ships.That is an enormous amount of weaponry.

SPEAKER 21: Never has a mechanized forcemoved so fast and so far.

SPEAKER 22: US troops needed to get there first,secure those oil fields, and keep the--

SPEAKER 23: --and explosions and anti-aircraft firehave also been reported around Mosul, a strategic oil region.

SPEAKER 24: Operating day or night,these troops combine their tank powerwith batteries of howitzers and multiple launch rocket systems.Unlike Desert Storm, this is a highly mobile, high techdivision, loaded with a newer model.

SPEAKER 21: Never has a mechanized forcemoved so fast and so far.[MUSIC PLAYING]

SPEAKER 25: The Americans are determinedto finish this controversial war next week.

SPEAKER 26: We have come light years since the first Gulf War.

SPEAKER 27: It is indeed a gruesome scene.Decapitated bodies and body parts all over the place.

SPEAKER 28: And it's hard to havea sense of what's going on.You have to follow it minute by minute,but it was a roller coaster all day.

SPEAKER 29: So there is some light resistance thatwas encountered even here at the border,and the British mopped that up with machine gunfire from their armored vehicles.

SPEAKER 30: Just the skill of these pilotsis one of the factors, I think, that the militaryis so encouraged by hearing.It's one of the reasons that some of the Iraqi pilotsdon't want to get up and take on the American pilots.

DONALD RUMSFELD: There is no comparison.The weapons that are being used todayhave a degree of precision that no one ever dreamt of.[MUSIC PLAYING]

SPEAKER 31: --Off the ships in the Red Sea.The precision bombardment slammed command centersin Baghdad, also targeting the cities of Takrit and Mosul,hitting Saddam Hussein's--[INTERPOSING VOICES]

SPEAKER 32: But they expect to have the city completelycontrolled within 24 hours.

SPEAKER 33: Hang on just a second.Can you hear the noise in Baghdad?

SPEAKER 34: This is-- This is shocking,because the entire western side of the city is smoking,and is being destroyed.And I'm watching.I'm watching half of Baghdad, it seems like, be destroyed.Maybe that's an exaggeration, but that'swhat it looks like to me right now.That this down town government side is just being devastated.

SPEAKER 34 [continued]: It's being pummeled right in front of me.Is your camera still operating, or has that buildingbeen destroyed?

SPEAKER 35: As all of this unfolds for us on a televisionscreen, you can only imagine the scene within the White House.And I have spoken to officials whodescribe a very upbeat mood.

SPEAKER 33: Hang on just a second.Can you hear the noise in Baghdad?

FRANK: I just cannot believe that I'm going right now.I cannot believe that that black cloud, it's gone.And hopefully I will make it to get to Iraq,and hopefully I'll be in Baghdad,and hopefully I will touch the ground.

FRANK [continued]: The ground I left 13 years ago.[MUSIC PLAYING]

SPEAKER 36: I never forgot this country.Never.Not even one day.To all the Iraqi people.Thank you.

FRANK: Now I'm on my way to the real war.[MUSIC PLAYING]

MAY: Iraqi people haven't had their perspective representedby anyone.In the American media, we've alwaysjust talked about Saddam, and Saddam, and Saddam.And Saddam himself repressed the opinionsand the expression of the people here.So we've all been complicit in kindof silencing the Iraqi people.

HESHAM: You're saying we don't need the help of the American.We never asked or needed the help of the Americans.We can stand on our own.

RANA: I will not ask an American to help me to stand up.If they want to help someone, they can help themselves.Why do they come here to help me?Why do they cross the seas and the oceans to help the Iraqis?

SPEAKER 37: All right.Tally ho.

COLONEL RUDESHEIM: You've got a lotof folks that had a lot to lose, or most to lose.So, shouldn't be surprising that there'sgoing to be a significant amount of resistance to any presencethat we make.

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SERGEANT HOLLIS: The ones that are fighting trulybelieve in their cause, Just as we do.So when it's time for the warriorsto meet on the battlefield, someone must die.It's not checkers, it's not chess.Someone must die.

SPEAKER 38: Folks are doing it for money.And if they're doing it for money,we have to find the money man.Because these guys are not doing it just because.

ZAID: I'll tell him something.The majority of Iraqi people are supporting the United States.This is fact.

RANA: Oh, the Americans, they haven't any ideawhat's the meaning of civilization.They start their lives by stealing the livesfrom the Indian and these things.So what about their lives?

HESHAM: When we look into the future--

RANA: I don't know which future that you're about.

HESHAM: You're saying that--

RANA: Future, with the American.Which horrible future that we will get in.

SPEAKER 39: The fact that there are so many bombings, it reallyforces the press to focus on these one-off incidents.The coverage becomes a series of explosions.No one is looking at what's reallyhappening in this country, how people are really feeling.I'm looking at it in a historical context.

ZAID: I'm Iraqi.I know the terrorist.If I see a terrorist face, I know him.But who will listen to me?Nobody.

SPEAKER 40: If you want to look at the Middle Eastas your enemy, you have to know your enemy.If you want to look at them as friends,we have to know how they see things.

HERSHAM: How can--

RANA: It's very simple.Occupation equals resistance.It's a very simple answer.[WEEPING][SINGING]

HERSHAM: God created the world in six daysand he rested for one day after that.Don't expect people to come in, destroy the whole countryand the whole infrastructure of the country,and build it in six weeks.There's no way.

LIEUTENANT COLONEL SASSAMAN: The reasonthat we have problems is because weget no help from the sheiks and no helpfrom the people in your community.Help me to find the attackers, the attacks will stop,and then you'll enjoy the freedomsthat you want to in Iraq.

SERGEANT HOLLIS: When Americans say liberation,we mean capitalism.Can you tell mothers, and daughters, and sistersthat your sons are dying for the American way of life?Can you say that they're dying for capital goods,this and that No, you cannot.[NON ENGLISH SPEECH]

SERGEANT HOLLIS [continued]: Do you think people will actually understand?

SPEAKER 41: This is a surreal movie.I am living a movie every day, and the whole experienceis just completely surreal.

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BENJAMIN ZEPHANIAH: My ears are battered and burned,and I have just learned that I havebeen listening to the rong radio station.My mind has been brutalized.Now the pain can't be disguised.I've been listening to the rong radio station.I was beginning to believe that all black men were bad menand white men would reign again.I was beginning to believe that I was a mindless drugfreak that couldn't control my sanity or my sexuality.

BENJAMIN ZEPHANIAH [continued]: I was beginning to believe that I couldn't believe in nothingexcept nothing, and all I ever wanted to dowas get you and do you.I've been listening to the rong radio station.

BENJAMIN ZEPHANIAH [continued]: When I turned the OBE down, I wrote a 2,000-word articlesaying why.There's not any one reason, and there are so many reasons.One was the word empire.When the British started using the word empire.Then I know some very serious connotations.As a black man, that means slavery.

BENJAMIN ZEPHANIAH [continued]: The honor system in this country is completely corrupted.They give it to people who they see as their friends,they give it to people who they want to become their friends.The Blair project at the moment isto get these kind of wild rock and rollpeople, outrageous poets and people like this,and bring them in to Downing Street,

BENJAMIN ZEPHANIAH [continued]: and give them tea and biscuits, and call it core Britannia.They'll go down the list and theywant to honor them or invite themin to the palace to show how fair they are.And in their action, they're completely unfair.These people who offered me the OBE,they hadn't even read my work.I thought my neighbors formed the Axis of Evil,

BENJAMIN ZEPHANIAH [continued]: or want to go kill people.I've been listening to the rong radio station.And I was sure that I didn't inhale,so why's my mind going stale?I've been listening to the rong radio station.I was beginning to believe that all Muslims are terrorists,a Christian terrorist didn't exist.I really did believe that terrorismcouldn't be done by government.Not our government, not white government.I just could not see what was wrong with me.

BENJAMIN ZEPHANIAH [continued]: I gave hungry people hamburgers, you see.I was beginning to believe that our children were betterthan their children.Their children were dying from terrorism,but I couldn't hear their children call,and a child from Palestine simply didn't count at all.What despair.No, children.I was not aware.I've been listening to the rong radio station.[MUSIC PLAYING]

BENJAMIN ZEPHANIAH [continued]: What Trevor Phillips represents is a black elitewho have rubbed up to new labor, whoseem to be using their blackness only to get positions of power.Trevor Phillips' idea is that you get the OBEand then you work from the inside.The queen doesn't give you her phone numberand say call me any time.

BENJAMIN ZEPHANIAH [continued]: I've never heard of anybody picking upthe OBE from the queen and then saying,by the way, your Majesty.Just a word.You know, there are a few people dying in our police station.[MUSIC PLAYING]

BENJAMIN ZEPHANIAH [continued]: You only hear about the Michael Powell casemainly because Benjamin Zephaniah is his cousin,and because Benjamin Zephaniah managed to get it in the media.But the police originally thought,oh, another black dead in custody.We'll just deal with it quietly and they'll go away.They were really surprised when they found outthat I was his cousin.In the room where he died, on the wall of the police station,there's a picture of me.And so the police showed their multi-racialism

BENJAMIN ZEPHANIAH [continued]: by having a poster of me in there,but then the same time, my cousin in there.I've been listening to the wrong genre, beenlistening to the wrong beats.I've been listening to the rong radio station.I've been listening to the wrong tones from the wrong zones.I've been listening to the rong radio station.I've been listening to the wrong voices.I've made such mad choices.I've been listening to the rong radio station.

BENJAMIN ZEPHANIAH [continued]: I've been listening to lies.I've been listening to spies.I've been listening to the rong radio station.I needed to know what some pop star somewherewas having for breakfast.I needed to know that I was no longer working class.I needed to know if the stock market rose 1%.

BENJAMIN ZEPHANIAH [continued]: I needed to know that I had a ruler to give me confidence.I needed to know that my life would improved loadsif I had an operation on my nose.I needed to hear that DJ say good morning, good morning!I thought that he was there just for me.I loved the way that he would say,this show was sponsored by.Oh my.Oh my.He made me cry.

BENJAMIN ZEPHANIAH [continued]: I've been listening to the rong radio station.[MUSIC PLAYING]I just felt that I had to say why not,

BENJAMIN ZEPHANIAH [continued]: why I wasn't accepting it.I didn't realize it at the time that no one had ever done that.I didn't realize at the time that I was making history.I think I would have written a different articleif I would've sat down and said, right.Now I'm going to make history by being the first personto publicly refuse the OBE.Instead, I just sat down and poured my blissful heart out,if you like.

BENJAMIN ZEPHANIAH [continued]: If I finish with a girlfriend, I don't just finish with her.I say why.I think it would be polite to say why.I was kind of surprised by the amount of mediacoverage it had.I've had 4,500 letters the first weekof the rejection of the OBE.That's a lot of letters.

BENJAMIN ZEPHANIAH [continued]: And this is just from Britain.We are beginning to get them now from Papua NewGuinea, and India, and Africa.Mainly the old empire countries.And I think after about 6,000 letters,I've had about 10 negative ones.Whatever happens in the future, the honor systemwill never be the same again.They are slowly going to change it.

BENJAMIN ZEPHANIAH [continued]: From what I've heard-- and I've got people in number 10--I've heard that they do want to change it.They want to change it fundamentally,but they don't want to change it and have it credited to me.But the truth is, after Zephanian, the honor systemwill never be the same again.Can you dig this?I put myself on a hit list.

BENJAMIN ZEPHANIAH [continued]: I've been listening to the rong radio station.I'm laughing, and I'm crying, and I'm watching myself dying.I've been listening to the rong radio station.Listen to him.Can you hear?Listen to her.Can you hear?Listen to me.Can you hear?Listen to me!Keep this frequency clear.

BENJAMIN ZEPHANIAH [continued]: Tune in.Drop out.[MUSIC PLAYING]

SPEAKER 41: As the city braces itselffor the upcoming Republican National Convention--I need you to go out and shoot street levelprotests at the RNC.

SPEAKER 42: That's not really my gig.

SPEAKER 43: What do you do?You just ride around in tanks filming US troopsinvading foreign countries?

SPEAKER 44: What was that like?

SPEAKER 42: It was like a mass experimentin Stockholm Syndrome.

SPEAKER 45: Get me face to face with all the mostradical groups.

SPEAKER 46: You lost?

SPEAKER 42: You know anything about the black block?

SPEAKER 47: The state is the only onethat can sanction violence?So when I do violence, it's wrong,but when the state does it, it's great, right?

SPEAKER 48: This is the oldest war in Americaand you guys know it.

SPEAKER 49: Get in the fucking car and leave.

SPEAKER 41: Where were you last night?

SPEAKER 43: You come here around 5:00.Then we'll see if you can hang.

SPEAKER 41: What?You spend one day with the great unwashed,and suddenly, you're one of them?

SPEAKER 47: Yo, get the fuck out of here with that camera, man.

SPEAKER 42: I want to know exactly what the fuck isgoing on at this Network.

SPEAKER 50: BCN has obtained exclusive footageof a radical anarchist group.

SPEAKER 42: You want to fuck some shit up?

SPEAKER 51: Don't I always?

SPEAKER 52: Babylon's going to fall before it changed.

SPEAKER 43: And then all this shit would have to come down!That's what I wanna see.[MUSIC PLAYING]

DON MILLI-ON: My name Milli-on, AKA the Don.Some people call me Don Milli.My real name is Jameel Morrison from Chicago.Chicago, which is AKA Chi-Windy.This is my wife here.

SPEAKER 53: Woo!

DON MILLI-ON: What's popping?

VERNON GROSE: Well, first you start with the ideathat America is a culture and a nation that'sbuilt on an informed public, and wefunction only if we're informed.If we're informed incorrectly, we'll act incorrectly.And so the accuracy of what's reportedis very, very important.Also the amount to be reported helps the people be educated.

VERNON GROSE [continued]: And so there's a certain role, an important role,for the media.

SPEAKER 54: All right, so what we're trying to figure outis, do you think that the newspapers and the mediatell us the truth about what's happening?

SPEAKER 55: No, it's all bullshit.

SPEAKER 56: No, Bullshit.

SPEAKER 57: My dad works in the Air Force.I know it's all bull shit.They don't tell you half of what's going on.

SPEAKER 54: Why not?

SPEAKER 57: I don't know.They just don't want us to know.

SPEAKER 56: Because they're trying to protect people.

SPEAKER 57: They don't want to panic.

FELIPE FERNANDEZ-ARMESTO: Well, you know, lifeis unsustainable without lubrication by lies.We know that in our own, every day lives.The truth is often hurtful.It very often directly inspires violence.So, actually, we always need to protect ourselves

FELIPE FERNANDEZ-ARMESTO [continued]: from the ill effects of the truth.

SPEAKER 58: The public, especially the American public,is totally insane.And if we were to find out some of the thingsthe government is really doing, then there'd be mayhem.

GREG PALAST: Dan Rather was on my programin Britain, News Night, speaking to another reporter.He said, if I were to ask the tough questions I knowI should ask, I would be lynched as unpatriotic.That's Dan Rather.Dan Rather is shaking in his shorts.Imagine the other reporters who thinkthat they ought to ask a couple questions.

GREG PALAST [continued]: Now, most of them, by the way, don'tfeel constrained, because what's coming out of the journalismschools are now guys who learn how to bleach their teethand wear their toupees.I'm not going to wear a cat pelt.I'm sorry.Not for me.And they've learned how to smile, and look at the camera,

GREG PALAST [continued]: and talk in a very serious voice and say,the president has just gotten on his helicopter and waved at us.Well, I don't give a fuck about the presentgetting on his fucking helicopter, OK?Let's put it in straight terms.That's not the news.They've learned how to rewrite press releases.We don't have reporters, we have repeaters.They've learned how to go to press conferences and take downwhat they've been told to take down, and that's the news.

MUKTA: I mean, a lot of the time here, mediasort of gauges public opinion rather than seeks to inform it,where I think maybe British people thinkthat the American media maybe has the opposite effect.It's a tool to create public opinionrather than actually gauge it.

STEVEN WILLIAMS: I think one big,crucial difference is this.I think that American society is fantastic at scrutinizingbig, public events where they've gone wrong.The obvious example is Watergate.But strangely enough, I think on every day affairs, the press,and in particular television, are really

STEVEN WILLIAMS [continued]: quite deferential to the office of the Presidentand the four or five key advisers and keypeople around him, in a way that simplydoesn't happen in Britain.And interestingly enough, when wecame to doing interview bits for the start of the war,

STEVEN WILLIAMS [continued]: we found it quite difficult to persuadesenior members of the administration to talk to us.And even though in Britain, we were the one other countryin the rest of the world that was on the side with America,they saw the BBC as always too challenging,and always a bit nasty in the wayit was actually going to phrase its questions.

STEVEN WILLIAMS [continued]: And when Donald Rumsfeld did an interviewwith David Dimbleby, who's the senior BBC interviewer,he walked off set.Instantly the whole thing was finished.He was really angry, almost of, howdare you speak to me like that.And yet, in British, it had been quite a decent, almost lowkey interview.You just don't speak to members of the administrationlike that.

DAVID: Media.Media is a very important thing, because at the end of the day,the media is kind of like the filter.Well, not the filter.The link between the high position and the people.Do you know what I mean?

NICK BROOMFIELD: I mean, I think things have changed.countries go through different periods of opennessand all the rest of it, and I think that the '70s and '80swere a much more open time in the States.And it's no accident in the sensethat a lot of people, I think, came back to Europe and stuff.

NICK BROOMFIELD [continued]: You know?Because it was just a profoundly depressing period,I think, in terms of, from Florida on.And frankly, I'm amazed, having been through the 60s and 70s,with all those hopes and aspirations,one never imagined in one's lifetime

NICK BROOMFIELD [continued]: that we would see such a big swing of the pendulumwhere all those cherished freedoms, like freedomof the press, press objectivity, all that sort of thing,civil rights, human rights, that were all fought for,should be overturned and compromisedin such a short period of time.

SPEAKER 54: So, give me an example of somethingthat happened recently that, if we'd known about it,we would all freak out.

SPEAKER 56: The plane that went down in Pennsylvania.They said they were a hero, like, let's roll,and the guy's smashing it to the ground,but now they're saying the Air Force shot it downand they wanted to make people outto be heroes when they were really just victims of the AirForce shooting them down.

SPEAKER 54: So what do you think happened?

SPEAKER 56: I think the Air Force shot them down.

SPEAKER 54: All right.Why do you think that?

SPEAKER 56: Because it's more logical.[MUSIC PLAYING]

WILLIAM BUNCH: I gathered all the information I couldand quickly learned that there werea lot of things about the crash of Flight 93that didn't really add up right away.The fact that debris fell on this lake a couple miles awayat the same time that the plane was crashing,and the fact that some lighter pieces of debris

WILLIAM BUNCH [continued]: that definitely came from the plane,like mail that was in the cargo section,blew as far as eight or nine miles away.And if you look at the pictures in that day,it was not an incredibly windy day.I mean, that's the official explanation,but it's certainly an explanationthat's worth questioning.I also learned quickly that a number

WILLIAM BUNCH [continued]: of people who were in Shanksville that daysaw a second aircraft which, I mean,that alone should raise huge questions about whatwas going on.It was a very contradictory picture out there.

ERNIE STUHL: It means different things to different people.I noticed this morning several ladies crying again,and they'll cry the whole time they're here.And then you'll see people just come in and take a quick lookand they're satisfied.

ERNIE STUHL [continued]: Sure there's stories like that floating around.That doesn't bother us.It doesn't bother the family people.We still say they done it and we will alwayssay that, regardless of-- Yeah, Iheard the plane was shot down.No it wasn't.

ERNIE STUHL [continued]: The word that we got, that the fighter planes thatwere sent to shoot it down were at least two minutes awayfrom Shanksville when it crashed.

SPEAKER 59: We think it was shot down,because as soon as it crashed, a big fighterplane flew over the school.And that's just what I think about it.

SPEAKER 60: I think that the passengers took it down.That's what I think.

SPEAKER 61: I think it was both, at the same time.

SPEAKER 54: Explain that.

SPEAKER 61: I don't know.I just think that they were attemptingto do it, because, I mean, they heard that let'sroll over the radio, so they had to have been doing something.But we saw that plane like right after it happened.We were the only ones who saw it,pretty much, from the school.Nobody else saw.

SPEAKER 54: How long after did you guys see the fighter plane?

SPEAKER 59: Like 10 seconds.Right there.It was right after.

SPEAKER 61: As soon as we saw the mushroom cloud,this plane goes flying over.

VERNON GROSE: The issue of eyewitnessesis a whole subject to itself in any major crash.The human being is not a very good sensory--Their senses are easily disturbed.And furthermore, they're enhancedonce the accident occurs and they hear from other people,

VERNON GROSE [continued]: because then they'll begin to integrate and to tie thingstogether that may not have been there.

LINDA SHEPLEY: Yeah.Mhmm.It was a real shock.

SPEAKER 62: Right in here is where the clothesline post usedto be, and she was standing right here,and she watched it from right over.And it flew out that way,

LINDA SHEPLEY: A lot of people say it was shot down.And I said, did you see the plane actually fly over.And they said no.I said, how can you say that plane was shot down.I said, I stood there and I watched that plane go out.I said, if it was shot down, therewould be debris falling from it, there'd be a ball of fire.There would be some indication that that plane was shot down.

LINDA SHEPLEY [continued]: I said, there was no indication that plane was shot down.I watched it.I may have been the last person--I don't know-- to see those poor people fly over,knowing that they were going to die.

LINDA SHEPLEY [continued]: And no matter what they say, those peopleare heroes, because anybody that knows they're going to dieand they do everything they can to save other peopleare heroes, no matter who put that plane down.

JOHN FLEEGLE: I'm standing there watching on TV,and the lights flickered in the building.About that time, we heard the engines roarand we took off out of the building.As we were coming up from the officeout through the building, the ground shookand we heard a big boom.Looked over and saw the big ball of fire up in the air.

JOHN FLEEGLE [continued]: We got there, like I said, probablywithin 45 seconds or a minute of impact that, we were there.We were there before any firemen, any paramedics,or anybody, we were on site.When we got there, there was a plane flying up above.And he was smart.He flew straight for the sun so you couldn't look at it

JOHN FLEEGLE [continued]: and see exactly what type of plane or if it was a fighter,or what it was.But we caught a glimpse of it.And as he was swinging, he was basically travellingin the same direction as the plane.I was in Atlanta, and that was this past winter,was in Yamaha, training.

JOHN FLEEGLE [continued]: And I was sitting there talking to everybody.Of course, I asked where you're from, where you're from,introduce yourself to everybody in the classroom.And of course now we just say Shanksville,where the plane crashed, and everybody knows where we're at.So I was sitting there talking to another guy,and I was telling him about-- He said, did yousee the plane crash and whatever.Were you there or anything?And I told him the whole story.

JOHN FLEEGLE [continued]: And I was explaining to him about wheneverwe were standing in the office and the lights flickeredand everything, and there was another gentleman sittingin the row in front of me that was retired from the Air Force.And as soon as he heard me say that, he immediatelystopped me and he said, tell me this.And I told him, and he says, well, I'mretired from the Air Force.He said, that plane was shot down.

JOHN FLEEGLE [continued]: and I said, why.And he said, because whenever the lights flickered,they zap the radar frequency on everything before they shoot.And he said, that's why your lights flickered.Your lights didn't flicker from the impact.Your lights flickered because they zapped the radar systembefore they shot it.

VERNON GROSE: Perhaps they did try to shoot the airplane down,or maybe they did.But if they did, the airplane would eitherdisintegrate in the air if it was hit with a weapon,or it wouldn't necessarily tip over.It'd more likely glide in.And this aircraft at least went in fairly vertical.

VERNON GROSE [continued]: Doesn't mean that that couldn't happen,but I think it wouldn't support as much a missile shoot downas the vertical descent.[MUSIC PLAYING]

SUSAN MCILWAIN: I was just driving along here.It was a beautiful day.Had my window open, had the stereo on.And when I got up here almost to the stop sign,this small, white plane-- at the timethat's what I thought it was-- went over top of me.It was so smooth and it just glided right over me,

SUSAN MCILWAIN [continued]: just like that.And then I ducked, and when I looked up again,then it was the spoiler, which is what I call it,and it was tipped like this so I could really see the spoiler.And then it just banked to the rightand went over, and went down behind those trees.We got to watching it on TV and theykept saying that it was a large plane, like a 757.

SUSAN MCILWAIN [continued]: And I was like, no.What I saw was a new jet.That would've blown me off the roadif it went over me that close.I said, that wasn't it.So, like I said, about 11:30 that night, the FBI came,wanted to talk to me.They kept asking me how big the plane was,

SUSAN MCILWAIN [continued]: and I said the plane was small.Wasn't much bigger than my van that I saw,and that it went over top of me.And he says, you don't know what a 757 looks like.And I said, don't be condescending to me.If you don't want to believe me, that's fine, but what I saw,

SUSAN MCILWAIN [continued]: I thought I should report, and you ought to know there wassomething else in the air at the same time this was goingon, and you want to make sure maybe it was ours and notsomebody else's.And then that's when he did seem to get a little nicer, told methat it was a white learjet, someone was taking pictures.I said, before the crash?And he says, well, we've got to go.

SUSAN MCILWAIN [continued]: And that was the end of it.

WILLIAM BUNCH: In my mind, the possibilitythat flight 93 was shot down is an incredible story,but on the other hand, I think in the minds of a lot of mediapeople, TV producers, et cetera, this story thatemerged instead of heroism by the passengersis a remarkable story.You know, certainly it's been the basis

WILLIAM BUNCH [continued]: for two bestselling books so far.It was featured on Dateline NBC and some of these other newsmagazine shows several times over.I'm sure.I hate to be so crass in referring to September 11th,but I'm sure the ratings for those shows,I'm sure those were some of the most watched news magazineshows of the year.

WILLIAM BUNCH [continued]: And so then I think, as a journalist,unfortunately it's kind of sad, but Ithink there's an instinct of, we have a great story here.Why would we want to muck around and mess it upby coming up with a different story whenpeople love this story?

BOBBY ERBACH: That's the book from Todd's wide, Lisa.I haven't finished it yet, but there'sa lot of information in here, especially the let's roll part,where that's from the phone call that Lisa got from her husbandbefore he crashed.And all she heard was the, let's roll,and it was silence, just like the heavens

BOBBY ERBACH [continued]: were talking to her.Have you seen the book?

VERNON GROSE: This is the role of government plays in timesof stress, how they view the public.Can the public stand the truth?Or we need a legend at this point.We need a really neat story of reacting against sucha dastardly act as was happening,so it's really nice and convenient

VERNON GROSE [continued]: to think of the Beamer story, let's roll.And that becomes just like the Alamo.And it's just one of those legends.And I'm not saying that somebody'sissued an order somewhere that said don't do anymore with 93,it's right where it ought to be, leave it alone.I don't think that's true, but I thinkthere'll be a lot of pressure to let

VERNON GROSE [continued]: the legend stay where it is.I would think there's some inclination that way.[MUSIC - SOULSAVERS, "LOVE"]

CATHY O'BRIEN: When I was really little,as far back as I can remember, I was sexually abused.And the sexual abuse went in to child pornography.But as a little child, it was so natural.To me, to be in a sexual mode all the time, that reaching out

CATHY O'BRIEN [continued]: when I saw someone aroused was justa normal thing for me to do.My sexuality was never suppressed.I was never told that's wrong.It was encouraged.So I just grew up thinking that was the norm.

CATHY O'BRIEN [continued]: With the abuse that I went through,it was as though my spirit was removedfrom it, like it took flight.It was a safe place.One that was actually afloat while my body was beingdirected by other people and ended upbeing involved in things no way I would've participated in.

CATHY O'BRIEN [continued]: [MUSIC PLAYING]

CATHY O'BRIEN [continued]: It was early evening when they played Most Dangerous Game.I was stripped of my clothing.I was allowed to wear tennis shoes,and told that I could have a head startand begin running before I would be hunted down.My exposure to it resulted in my believing I had no place to run

CATHY O'BRIEN [continued]: and no place to hide.It seemed there were no limits to whatcould happen in my existence at that time.It was one of the most extreme situationsI think I ever survived.

BRIAN HALL: Greetings and the salutations.Mark Phillips and Cathy O'Brien have been through a lot.Cathy has had some extraordinary experiences in the mind controlprogram, and Mark came along and pulled her outof this situation.So, without further ado, if you will pleasegive a warm round of applause to Mark Phillips

BRIAN HALL [continued]: and Cathy O'Brien.

CATHY O'BRIEN: When I was a really young child growing upin Muskegon, Michigan, this would be the early '60s.I was born in 1957.My father had been sexually abusing meas far back as I can remember.And he often bragged of substituting his penisfor my mother's nipple while I was an infant.

CATHY O'BRIEN [continued]: So my sexuality was heightened from a very, very early age,and I also developed what is knownas disassociative identity disorder.It was formerly termed multiple personality disorder,but had since been redefined, because it's notmultiple personalities but the shattering of a personality,and a compartmentalization of memory, of trauma

CATHY O'BRIEN [continued]: too horrible to comprehend.Childhood sexual abuse is certainly too horribleto comprehend.There was no place for that in my mind.This compartmentalization of memorywas what the government was interested in,because they figured that, if a person couldn't thinkto bring to mind abuse, they wouldn't

CATHY O'BRIEN [continued]: be able to think to bring to mind governmentsecrets, government perversions, or anything else they wantedcompartmentalized in the brain.My experience as a mind control slave on a White House Pentagonlevel was extreme.

CATHY O'BRIEN [continued]: I was totally robotic.I had no capacity to think for myself.I didn't have any free thought whatsoever.I didn't even have the ability to question, to reason,or consciously comprehend what I was involved in.

CATHY O'BRIEN [continued]: [MUSIC PLAYING]

STEPHEN MARSHALL: Mark, how do youfeel being in Arkansas right now?

MARK PHILLIPS: Nervous as a cat in a roomfull of rocking chairs.

STEPHEN MARSHALL: Why is that?

MARK PHILLIPS: This place is dangerous,and I'm not too pleased with actually being here.

CATHY O'BRIEN: I don't know how many times we'vebeen in situations where we weren't sureif we were going to make it through it.

MARK PHILLIPS: I couldn't count them.

CATHY O'BRIEN: I can't either, but this is definitely,definitely one of them.It's over the line.

MARK PHILLIPS: Maybe one of the worst.Because when you start this process,this is what gets everybody killedis the investigation process.And that's just not cool.We're in it, we're on the back of the tiger,and we can't get off.We've got to finish this.[MUSIC PLAYING]

MARK PHILLIPS [continued]: What we got here, Stephen, is somebodywho's a top world-class business man in his own business arena.This guy's not somebody you want to mess with.Now, he's been threatened many, many times.He's gotten into a couple of gun fights.

MARK PHILLIPS [continued]: I strongly urge you to think very carefullyabout your questions.And don't attempt to try to fool himby putting him on camera, except maybe in a silhouetteor something.

SPEAKER 66: Would you like to know a couple of things?

STEPHEN MARSHALL: I want to know everything.

SPEAKER 66: If you're looking for validationin terms of what Mark and Cathy have laid on the table.Hey.Is it real?Yeah, it's real.And when you consider that you have membersof the judiciary, law enforcement, high level place

SPEAKER 66 [continued]: business people, politicians involved.You understand what I'm just saying to you?It's people who shape how you see the world, tell youwhat's important, what's not important.If you choose to take a deep look at it

SPEAKER 66 [continued]: and do your own research, fine.You'll find out for yourself.Hope you're fast on your feet, and hope you'recapable of dodging bullets, because youmight run in to some.These are serious people.

MARK PHILLIPS: Every time I turnedthe proverbial corner, Stephen, Iran in to stuff that was just totally,100% outside of my realm of experience,and hence of believability.I mean, it's bad enough to hear this stuff,but it's even worse to get it validated.

MARK PHILLIPS [continued]: [KNOCKING]

SPEAKER 67: Cathy.You ready?

CATHY O'BRIEN: When I was 22 years old, my vaginal muscle,it was cut.And then once that happened wherethere was more movement with the muscle,the muscle can actually protrude out the vaginal opening.And that was carved by somebody that

CATHY O'BRIEN [continued]: was a very controlling person and wasaware of the effects of trauma on the human mind.

SPEAKER 67: They used an X-Acto knife to do that?

CATHY O'BRIEN: Yes.A series of them.I didn't have any anesthesia, so I remember it very distinctly.

SPEAKER 67: Was there a lot of bleeding?

CATHY O'BRIEN: It was so uncomfortable.I remember crawling in to the bathroomand getting in the bath tub.

SPEAKER 67: It seems to me like moreof a ritualistic type of carving.And not just carving, but an actual faceof something into there.Mostly what was done was what is consideredoutside of the vagina on the vulva.There were several incisions madewhich made one flap of skin that looks like a nose,

SPEAKER 67 [continued]: and slits were cut in to look like eyes, and even a mouth.

CATHY O'BRIEN: See the part that sticks out?There's a little-- it's like a really long nose.And then right above it are two eyes.And there's a mouth that smiles underneath it.

STEPHEN MARSHALL: After what you've been through,haven't you been through the worst of it, do you think?

CATHY O'BRIEN: Yeah.Well, I'm not afraid of anything except maybe notgetting the word out, if that could be construed as a fear.And this word is getting out regardless.We've won.We won big.[MUSIC PLAYING]

MARK PHILLIPS: This right here is dragon's breath.These are all armor piercing exploding shells.This thing would make an armored personnel carrier completelydebilitated in a New York second, as they say.And you keep it in your bedroom.I keep it right beside my head, along with a .45,loaded with similar shells.Not that I'm paranoid.

MARK PHILLIPS [continued]: It's just that, you know, I'd liketo squeeze one last one off if some idiotwants to come in here.

FRITJOF CAPRA: Food is something very existential,and it's something very fundamental to human beings.And so people, even if they don't understandthe intricacies and complications, say,of genetic engineering, they get naturally suspicious whenthey suspect that their food is chemically contaminated

FRITJOF CAPRA [continued]: or genetically modified, and the secrecy of the corporationsheightens that suspicion.[MUSIC PLAYING]

PAUL HAWKEN: Farmers around the world are in trouble.Why are they in trouble?They're in trouble because there's too much food.There's too much, and it suppresses prices.So those farmers are highly susceptible to a crop,a seed, a product that will slightlyreduce their costs, even if the long term effect is

PAUL HAWKEN [continued]: detrimental to the soil, to their selves,even to the family.And you see it India, you see it in America,you see it in Canada, you see it in Argentina.[MUSIC PLAYING]

FRITJOF CAPRA: Five or so agrochemical corporationscontrol about 85% of the food, and whatthey want to do in their own wordsis gain control over the entire food chain,from the seeds to the table.

PAUL HAWKEN: Corporations are puttinga gene from another species in to germ plasmto create characteristics or traits whichare more desirable to whom?Well, in most cases, these traitsare desirable to agribusiness.That is to say companies who are mass producers of cornand soybeans.Generally, mass producers of food

PAUL HAWKEN [continued]: that goes to cattle to make meat.The danger of this is really unknown.Scientifically, we are on a thresholdthat we have never crossed before.We simply do not have the expertiseto judge whether we know what we're doing or not.

FRITJOF CAPRA: Monsanto, one of the corporate giantsin this field, engineered soybeansto make them resistant to a specific pesticide.Now, it happens to be a pesticide sold by Monsanto,of course.It's called Roundup.So these soybeans are Roundup ready, as they say.

FRITJOF CAPRA [continued]: The purpose is not to increase the yield of soybeans.The purpose is to sell more Roundup.They have other crops that have a pesticide in them,and they want to sell these special seeds.Now, they have patented the seeds.They sell them for inflated prices.

FRITJOF CAPRA [continued]: They charge a technology fee on top of it,and then they have intellectual property rightsso that farmers are not allowed to save the seedsor develop them, as farmers have done for hundreds of years.

PAUL HAWKEN: So they buy the seeds,but they don't own the seeds.They have a license to use it for one year.The next year, they have to buy it again.So now, they're just like somebodywho's been enticed to use drugs and nowhas to form a relationship with their dealer.Right?Who has the power in that situation?

PAUL HAWKEN [continued]: The dealer has the power.[MUSIC PLAYING]

FRITJOF CAPRA: In Europe, where the anti-GM movement ismuch stronger, the English supermarketshave agreed not to buy GM food.

VANDANA SHIVA: So the industry nowknows that neither Europe nor US is the place wherethey can keep this expansion on, and they're moving to Asia.And they're trying to push this technology on Indiaby violating every rule under the sun,every environmental law that we have had,corrupting our scientific institutions, our government,

VANDANA SHIVA [continued]: and that's why I have sued them.I have got Monsanto in court in the Supreme Court of Indiabecause they're violating our laws.

FRITJOF CAPRA: Hunger is not a technological problem.The world produces enough food.So, you may ask, why are there so many hungry people?Well, they're hungry people because the food is notdistributed to them.It is not offered to them.Hunger is the problem of food being concentratedin the hands of the rich and powerful and poor people

FRITJOF CAPRA [continued]: not having access to them.Well, GM food is going to perpetuate that.In fact, it's going to make it worse.It's going to increase poverty, it's going to increase hunger.

VANDANA SHIVA: So it is not a strategy to produce more food.It is a strategy to undermine small farmers' livelihoods,create ecological risks, and createhealth risks India can do without this.

FRITJOF CAPRA: Life has evolved for over three billion years.There's a wisdom in the organization of natural livingsystems, of ecosystems, living organismsthat we should take to heart.

PAUL HAWKEN: We have never had a worldwide famine,and there's no reason to.But should we follow what these companies are proposing,it'd be very easy, because if the characteristicsor if the traits in these seeds should fail catastrophically,they will fail worldwide.[MUSIC PLAYING]

VANDANA SHIVA: This is Guerrilla News Network, and strengthto all the young guerrillas.