Women & Leadership: The Case of HackNY

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    • 00:00

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    • 00:18

      SHERYLLE TAN: Hi, I'm Dr. Sherylle Tan.I am the director of internships and researchat the Kravis Leadership Instituteat Claremont McKenna College.The video you are about to view focuses on issuesof women in leadership.Women possess all the qualities thatis necessary for 21st century leadership.Women leaders have shown themselves to be persuasive,

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      SHERYLLE TAN [continued]: problem solvers, strong motivators, as well as mentors.The research on women and leadershiphas found differences in leadership stylesthat women and men adopt.Women's leadership styles tend to be more democratic, moretransformational, whereas men tendto be more autocratic, more authoritative,

    • 01:03

      SHERYLLE TAN [continued]: or transactional.Today, transformational leadership stylestend to be more effective as many organizations movefrom a top down approach to a more team based approach,to working together and leadership.At the end of this film you will developan understanding of women's leadershipand the diversity of women's leadership styles,

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      SHERYLLE TAN [continued]: define and recognize gender based barriers impactingleadership development and successin various organizational structures,explain the differences in leadership styleswith a focus on gender.[MUSIC PLAYING]

    • 01:48

      DIANA: I'm Diana.I kind of run hackNY a little--just a little bit.I work at Tumblr full time.I also do hackNY stuff.And yeah, so let's first introduce each other.

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      KATYA: My name is Katya.I'm from [INAUDIBLE] College, a CS major.So today I just to learn new things.

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      DIANA: Being a minority in computer sciencehas been really difficult. I feellike women face a lot of challenges in their dayto day, working at various different companies.I went to a lot of hackathons when I was in college.I realized that there were no women.I remember my first hackathon, I think

    • 02:28

      DIANA [continued]: I counted like five women, and it was reallydiscouraging for me.Because I was like, I want some representation.It kind of sucks to go to your first hackathonand not see anybody that looks like you.I first got involved with hackNY when I was a junior in college.So I was a junior at Rutgers University studying computer

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      DIANA [continued]: science, and I heard about this fellowshipwhere they take different students from across the nationand they put them in an NYU dorm and match themwith different startups around New York.

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      CHRIS WIGGINS: HackNY is a student only hackathon.We started in April 2010.We were the first student only hackathonin this format where students come togetherfor 24 hours from a bunch of different universitiesto try to build on top of technologies.So they're building on top of APIs,including a lot of APIs from New York City startups,

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      CHRIS WIGGINS [continued]: and just trying to see what they can build together.

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      DIANA: HackNY is a super close community,and we all contribute to the whole entity of what is hackNY.We all organize dinners and meetups with each other.It's a whole other spiel that I cango into about how amazing we are to each other.But I just kind of started accumulatingall these different responsibilities, whichincluded designing the t-shirt, and emails out

    • 03:51

      DIANA [continued]: to all the hackers, and organize all the hackers coming in,and travel, and all the different events that wewould have, and the prizes.And so much goes into making the experience reallygood for hackers especially, because we care so muchabout people who put in their effort in one weekendto learn something new.

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      DIANA [continued]: For this year we have what's called the no rhymeor reason prizes.

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      CHRIS WIGGINS: One of the things thathackNY is designed to foster is a communityof technologists who are interested in meetingother technologists, and bringing outthe best in themselves and each other.So one thing you see at a hackNY hackathonis when the fellows, the alumni, come back and lead,

    • 04:35

      CHRIS WIGGINS [continued]: they're also finding out what they themselvesare capable of-- not just as technologists, but as leaders.Right?So as all of them are organizing this event together,they're realizing what are the things that other people dowell-- broadly, not just their tech--and what are they themselves like as leaders?What sort of leadership roles are they capable of

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      CHRIS WIGGINS [continued]: and comfortable with?So there's a lot there as studentstransition from individual contributors, whichis what we call it in tech when you sort of go from somebodywho contributes as a student to somebody who contributesas a junior person, you transition eventuallyfrom individual contributor to team leader, or manager,

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      CHRIS WIGGINS [continued]: or CTO, or something more senior than that.So that's one of the things that'sgreatest about a hackathon is getting a chanceto see these students develop as leaders.So we're going to do something called speed friending.Do you guys know what speed friending is?Do you guys know what speed dating is?

    • 05:32

      AUDIENCE: Yes.

    • 05:33

      DIANA: All right, OK, we're getting somewhere here.This year I was asked to run hackNY by Chris Wigginshimself, and he literally just Slacked me one dayand was like, hey, do you want to run sponsorships?And I was like, yes.I'm also doing this and this and this for the hackathon.And then it turned out to be like this whole thing,and I ended up becoming a director, whichwas a huge honor, because I love hackNY,

    • 05:56

      DIANA [continued]: and I love giving back to this communitybecause it's such an amazing community.Yay, good job, everybody!Women!Women.So ladies from hackathons was originally a Facebook group,and it grew to like this huge, ginormous Facebook group.So at every hackathon that I go to,I run a ladies from hackathons meetup.So for this hackathon I thought it

    • 06:17

      DIANA [continued]: would be really cool to have tea time and a speed friending,so everybody got to meet each other.And we asked each other a ton of different questions.Some of them were more intimate than the other than others.But it was a really great way for other womento get to know other women who wereinto technology, and into STEM.

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      DIANA [continued]: What's one time that you've failed really, really hard,or you can talk about what was your greatest success.Cool?OK, starting a timer in 3, 2, 1.I thought it would be a really good ideato have the ladies form hackathonsmeetup as a way for this minority groupto just connect during a hackathon and kind of give

    • 07:03

      DIANA [continued]: people a way to see somebody that looks like themin this community, and doing things that they want to do.

    • 07:09

      SPEAKER 5: Hi!Who here doesn't have social media?Well, I see most of you have social media.Right?Have you ever felt frustrated whenyou're meeting your friend have to add themon each social platform, go to Facebook, search to name--

    • 07:23

      DIANA: One of the barriers of being a woman in STEMis you have to do a lot more than the men.You have to make sure that you're getting equal pay.You have to make sure that you're being treated fairly.I read an article where I found outthat a lot of women in their companiesvolunteer more than the men to do free work thatdon't lead to promotions.

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      DIANA [continued]: And I had to internalize that and think about, wait,I volunteer to do do x, y, z.And these aren't contributing to my career,but I just happen to do it.Is it because I'm a woman?Like, you have to really think about all of your decisions.And you have to start making conscious decisionsfor yourself.

    • 08:06

      DIANA [continued]: You have to think a lot about gaining respect,and you constantly have to think about how you act.Like, will this person think I'm too feminineand not respect me if I wear a skirt today,or if I wear a skirt too much at work?Like, will people not respect me and think I'm too girlyand not think that I'm an engineer?Do I have to lower my voice five octaves for people

    • 08:29

      DIANA [continued]: to take my question seriously at work?It's just a lot you have to think about,because there are a lot of invisible biasesthat people have at work in the tech culture.So that's a lot of overwhelming thoughtsthat you have to go through in your day to day.One of the situations that I've been in

    • 08:50

      DIANA [continued]: was one time I worked on a team where there wasanother intern who was a male.And he made this exact comment wherehe said that I could get any job I wanted because I was a girl.And I just felt like that was super condescending,and super rude, because he acted as

    • 09:12

      DIANA [continued]: if we weren't doing the same work,and I wasn't as smart as he was.And it made me feel like I didn't belong in tech.

    • 09:21

      SPEAKER 5: Yeah, I've faced misogyny I think a lot.Like, haven't we all?But the time that I didn't know how to handle itwas freshman year.It was like the second time I was in a CS class,and I sat down in the front row.And then it was before class started,and then a group of guys walks in, and they just look at meand they give me this really weird condescending look.

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      SPEAKER 5 [continued]: And they're just like, that's our seat.And I'm like, I didn't know what to do.I mean, technically the seat did not have their name on it.We didn't have assigned seats or anything like that.But they were just like, you need to get up.We're sitting here.And I was just like--I didn't know what to do, so I got up and I moved.And then I heard them talking about me behind my backlater on in class.So that killed my confidence.But I remember like a year later they

    • 10:03

      SPEAKER 5 [continued]: were hitting me up asking me for help on the exams,so I felt vindicated.

    • 10:08

      DIANA: It's this technical culturethat makes it really toxic for women to join computer science.It's like people that make those comments are reallytoxic to young girls who are actuallyreally interested in STEM, but could end upgetting discouraged because of these different men whomake comments like, oh, females aren't

    • 10:30

      DIANA [continued]: as good at coding as guys.Or, women have it's so easy just because they'rea minority, or people that make any of those types of comments.

    • 10:42

      SPEAKER 5: I worked at this one place this past summer,and my boss thought it was a good ideato ask me out on a date, which I took veryplatonically, because I thought, who wouldask their intern on a date?[LAUGHING]Yeah, it was just the most bizarre thing.And then I contacted HR, gave him a warningfirst, because I thought maybe he just

    • 11:03

      SPEAKER 5 [continued]: misunderstood the situation.But he was so consistent that I contacted HR.

    • 11:08

      DIANA: After all of the ladies from hackathon meetupsthat I have ran, something I notice and I'm alsosuper proud, is I notice after the meetup,they all find each other on social media,and they all friend each other, and follow each otheron Twitter and Instagram.And they end up talking to each otherthroughout the rest of the hackathon, which

    • 11:29

      DIANA [continued]: is like absolutely amazing.Because I just feel like if you gain this really strong networkof women engineers and women data scientists and computerscientists, the better the community will be.And I just think a really strong community where women respecteach other and are able to meet other women

    • 11:50

      DIANA [continued]: and computer scientists will do so muchfor what tech culture is today.I started in computer science.I actually hated it when I first started.I took an AP computer science class in my high school yearand I hated it so much.

    • 12:12

      DIANA [continued]: I was the only girl in my class, and I justfeel like everybody else knew how to code already,like already knew about computer science,and I felt like I was already reallybehind from the first day.So I hated it the entire time.I felt like that was what computer science wouldbe for the rest of my life, like, mesurrounded by men who knew exponentially times more

    • 12:35

      DIANA [continued]: than I did.And it was really discouraging.And I always felt like I couldn't learn anything.Protobuf.Protobufs are essentially the same thing.You can just re-install.Do you have BREW?

    • 12:47

      SPEAKER 7: I do have BREW.Yes, I'm not an animal.[LAUGHING]

    • 12:51

      DIANA: My family friend who was a software engineerat the time told my mom about this program calledGirls Who Code.And I applied and I ended up getting in.I was going to work at Starbucks that summer, I remember.And my mom was like, don't work at Starbucks.There's this really cool program that you got into,so you should just do it, even though Iknew that I didn't like coding.

    • 13:13

      DIANA [continued]: I spent eight weeks in a classroom in an officesomewhere in midtown New York City with 18 other girlslearning how to code, and meetinga lot of other women engineers, and women data scientists,and it was amazing.And it changed my perspective on what computer science was.

    • 13:36

      DIANA [continued]: And it made me want to major in it when I went to college.I think it's really important to have a really good learningcommunity, or having a safe place to learn,for everybody to learn.And Girls Who Code, that classroomwas like my safe space to learn how to code.And surrounding myself with these rolemodels who were women engineers in the New York startup scene--

    • 13:60

      DIANA [continued]: I met so many women engineers and data scientistsfrom Google, like JP Morgan.And visiting their offices, and seeing them in the workplace,and seeing them do their job day to daywas what really inspired me that I think that I can do this,and I think that I might like it.After that summer, I learned how to code.

    • 14:22

      DIANA [continued]: Well, I learned how to code again.And I had a really amazing perspectiveon what computer science was.After that summer, I ended up interning at Adobe,and then I interned at Tumblr, and now I'mworking on Tumblr full time.Seeing all of these women engineers,and the more that I see women engineers, the more I

    • 14:44

      DIANA [continued]: feel more confident in myself.You meet all these other women that look like you,and it makes you just believe in yourself.And it tells you in the back of your head, that like, oh,I can do this.If they're doing this, and I'm kind of doing it,then we can do it.

    • 15:01

      SPEAKER 8: Congratulations!

    • 15:04

      DIANA: As a leader, of course you want your team,and you want the people that you workwith to have as many different types of thought as possible.But where the real work comes in is inclusion, and making surethat these different types of thought

    • 15:26

      DIANA [continued]: are being used in creating the products and apps that peopleare making.So this year we had two social good awardsthat we're actually won by--one team had a team some ladies that were at Ladies Storm.And I think meetups like Ladies Storm

    • 15:49

      DIANA [continued]: are one of the ways that we can kind of educate and justspread awareness about the different types of problemsthat other women face.I hope the women that participatedin this hackathon also participated in my Ladies Stormmeetups.I hope that they continue to meet up, and have

    • 16:10

      DIANA [continued]: lunch and dinner, and continue to empower each other.Have we all had a chance to talk to each other?OK, so did anybody have any interesting things that theyfound out about anybody else?I think one of the most important thingsI learned about hackNY is something that I naturallyhave, but something that I also learned to practice morewas how to be more adaptable to different types of people,

    • 16:32

      DIANA [continued]: and reach outside of your box for different things,and figure out what's going to work with different people.So I think that's the most important thing about beinga leader is knowing the types of peoplethat you're working with, knowing them individually,and the things that they care about.[MUSIC PLAYING]

    • 16:52

      DIANA: One of my lifelong goals isto kind of bring technical education to my hometown.So I'm from Jersey City, New Jersey, which is currentlybeing gentrified by a lot.But there is a side opposite to that gentrification where thereare kids who don't know anything about whatthe possibilities are in STEM.

    • 17:14

      DIANA [continued]: And a lot of people from my hometowndon't even know what coding means.I want to show them that they can do it.And one of my lifelong goals is to bringthat education, or the education that Ihad through Girls Who Code and hackNYto underrepresented communities.[MUSIC PLAYING]

Women & Leadership: The Case of HackNY

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Diana Navarro, HackNY fellow, discusses her experience and challenges as a woman in a STEM field.

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