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    • 00:31

      [MUSIC PLAYING][40 Minutes]

    • 00:54

      SUSAN: I have to do it.It's a compulsion.Afterwards, there's no real sense of relief.I just feel I've done what I had to do.

    • 01:07

      MARIO WATTS: Addicted, yeah.I'm addicted to it.I just can't go without.

    • 01:19

      ANNE BARROWCLOUGH: Two years ago, I was weaned off it.But I know that it's always there, always lurking.

    • 01:30

      SIMON KING: At its best, it gives youa sensation of just being so alive and so on form.And it's as though you could not be enjoying your life moreat that minute.

    • 01:41

      INTERVIEWER: At its worst?

    • 01:43

      SIMON KING: It's hell, absolute hell.

    • 01:47

      NARRATOR: Not heroin, not alcohol, but exercise,and addiction to it seems to be growing.We all know someone we might jokingly call a fitness freakor fanatic.But just when does a fanatic become an addict?

    • 02:04

      MARIO WATTS: When you have a decent session,lift some good heavy weights, and feelthe blood sort of rushing to the muscle, that'sa good feeling to me.It doesn't always happen, of course.But when it does, it's a good feeling.

    • 02:16

      INTERVIEWER: Like what?

    • 02:18

      MARIO WATTS: Well, orgasmic, you know, something like that.

    • 02:23

      INTERVIEWER: Better than sex?

    • 02:24

      MARIO WATTS: Well, equivalent, equivalent, you know.On a par, I'd say.[GRUNTS][FIT TO DROP][BREATHING]

    • 02:40

      SIMON KING: If I don't exercise, I don't reallyfeel that I'm awake or alive.I find this addictive, really.The phrase that comes to mind is it turns you on.There's an excruciating sensation,which is excruciatingly delightful in exercise.[Simon King] And it's almost like a drug.It's almost like, you know, it sort of takes you over.

    • 03:02

      SIMON KING [continued]: And it's just like it's fantastic.But it's very clean.It's absolutely crystal clear.If I got down to the pub later, afterwards with all the boys,you're so sharp.It's just like everyone says, you're on form.And you get it every time.Your mind just works at a far higher pitch.The wit and repartee is just excellent.

    • 03:26

      ANNE BARROWCLOUGH: The minute you actuallystart exercising after a certain level, you just feel terrific.You feel really buzzing.You feel on top of the world.When I was 22, I did one aerobics classand just thought this is it.It was in about a month, I was working out three hours a day,every day.

    • 03:49

      ANNE BARROWCLOUGH [continued]: I would do a small workout for half an houror so in the morning, just to sort of kick start me.[Anne Barrowclough] Then at lunchtime, I'd be itching.I'd just have to go and do it.And I would avoid work so I could go to the gym.I'd do a workout.And then if I had time, I'd do another workout immediatelyafterwards.

    • 04:09

      ANNE BARROWCLOUGH [continued]: By late afternoon, I'd be twitching again,thinking I've got to get back to the gym.Weekends, if I had to go away, it was hell.I often cancelled trips, or I cancelled visits to friendsbecause it meant I couldn't get this high.

    • 04:30

      ANNE BARROWCLOUGH [continued]: [MUSIC PLAYING]

    • 04:31

      TRAINER: Push.Go over.Push.Push.Move your legs out.Push.Come on, faster.Get your knees up.Come on.Knees up.Push.

    • 04:37

      INTERVIEWER: So what is it about exercisethat can be so addictive?Scientists say exercise stimulates the brainto release natural drugs, called endorphins, very similar,in fact, to heroin and opium.They say it's these natural narcotics that couldbe getting us high and hooked.

    • 04:52

      TRAINER: Press ups.Move it.Come on.Move it!Press, 10 9, 8, 7, 6--

    • 04:60

      TRAINER 2: [INAUDIBLE] go!1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8--

    • 05:07

      NARRATOR: But is this really only to do with body chemistry,or is it also to do with body image, the frantic driveto achieve physical perfection in an increasinglyimage conscious society?[MUSIC PLAYING]

    • 05:39

      NARRATOR [continued]: In America, maybe the most image conscious society of all,and where the fitness boom has been booming longest,exercise addiction is a well-acknowledged phenomenon.There, addicts trying to break their habitare resorting to therapy.And often, it's therapy on the run.

    • 05:54

      RUNNER 1: Body feels while we're running.

    • 05:56

      RUNNER 2: OK.

    • 05:57

      RUNNER 1: What I want you to do is really focus on the feelingthat your body has as you're starting to warm up,the way your legs feel, but mostly the way your mind feels,psychologically how you feel.

    • 06:10

      DR. CONNIE CHAN: If people can control it,can control their addiction and use it in a moderate form,exercise is fine, and it can be very enhancing.[Dr. Connie Chan, Psychologist] But whensomeone is to the extreme addicted, where they're reallygone off the deep end, where they're exercising five,six hours a day, or they can't function-- they can't sleep,

    • 06:31

      DR. CONNIE CHAN [continued]: they can't do anything without doinga large amount of exercise-- thenthat will be destructive, because no one's body ismade do that much exercise.

    • 06:43

      RUNNER 1: You pay attention to how far more you have to goand when you're going to stop.

    • 06:48

      RUNNER 2: I try to set a limit on my running,but it doesn't always work that way, especially if I'm alone.

    • 06:52

      RUNNER 1: Uh-huh.

    • 06:52

      RUNNER 2: Yeah, I have a tendency to go further.

    • 06:57

      RUNNER 1: Uh-huh.

    • 06:58

      RUNNER 2: You know?On the spur of the moment.

    • 07:00

      RUNNER 1: Right.

    • 07:00

      RUNNER 2: You'll be running along, and trying to run.

    • 07:02

      RUNNER 1: And how long does that satisfaction about running, howlong does that last afterwards?

    • 07:06

      RUNNER 2: Quite a while.I feel like I can do anything afterwards.

    • 07:10

      RUNNER 1: Yeah?

    • 07:10

      RUNNER 2: Yeah.

    • 07:11

      RUNNER 1: But like when you say quite a while, youmean like an hour, or more?

    • 07:15

      RUNNER 2: At least a couple hours.

    • 07:17

      RUNNER 1: Uh-huh.My form, my body--

    • 07:18

      DR. CONNIE CHAN: Many of them don't have any ideaof when they should set limits.They could spend many more hours than a professional athlete.And they will push their bodies beyond whata professional athlete is likely to do.When you put exercise above all aspects of your life,the balance is lost.And many of the addicts report great problemsin their relationships.Marriages will sometimes break down.

    • 07:40

      DR. CONNIE CHAN [continued]: It affects all aspects of their lives.

    • 07:43

      NARRATOR: The American answer is to gorunning with your personal therapist, a sightyet to be seen in Britain.

    • 07:49

      TRAINER 1: Push, five, four, three, two, one.Up!On the spot, sprint--

    • 07:53

      NARRATOR: Here, the emphasis is stillon doing more, rather than less.No pain, no gain.

    • 07:58

      TRAINER 1: One, get down.Get it down.Come on.Two, all the way down.Three, four, five, push.Get you knees up.Take it away.Star jumps, 20, move it!One--

    • 08:10

      NARRATOR: While many exercisers admit they have an addiction,they see nothing wrong with a regular physical fix.

    • 08:16

      MARIO WATTS: [EXHALES] [GRUNTS] I'm training every day.I don't have a day off.It is an addiction, but a good addiction.I don't see what's bad about it.It's a good addiction, you know?It's better than being addicted to drink or drugs.

    • 08:38

      MARIO WATTS [continued]: [Mario Watts] I bet it's doing me, you know, me good.

    • 08:48

      CHRISTINE TAYLOR: Since we first met,I'd say he does at least six times more than he did.He gets more out of that than anything else in life.[Christine Taylor] So it's-- that is his main reasonfor being on this earth is to train.

    • 09:08

      TRAINER 3: And go!

    • 09:10

      MARIO WATTS: I'm very rarely ill.I always have energy and never have sort of low, low spells.I think I can fit exercise into my life, as well as everythingelse.You know, work and some social time.And change, up one.It sort of fits in quite nicely as far as I'm concerned.And go!

    • 09:31

      CHRISTINE TAYLOR: He just has to-- has to train.The first time we went on holiday,we went to [INAUDIBLE].And he trained, and he trained later in the day.So obviously, because of all the sun, he dehydrated.

    • 09:43

      MARIO WATTS: And change!

    • 09:44

      CHRISTINE TAYLOR: He be sick for the day.He'd stay in bed.You'd obviously be expected to stay by his side.And the next day he'd be back in the gym.

    • 09:52

      MARIO WATTS: Go and keep the heels low.

    • 09:53

      CHRISTINE TAYLOR: As If the gym's got nothingto do with it.Probably something he ate, he said.Because everywhere we've ever been, the same thing happens.I wait outside toilets for hours on end while he's, you know,he's feeling ill, and he's all dizzy.So you can't really do anything.

    • 10:14

      CHRISTINE TAYLOR [continued]: It's not much of a holiday.And then at the end of that day, no matter how ill or dizzyhe's feeling, he would still go to the gym.

    • 10:21

      MARIO WATTS: Go straight on.Let's go.Good stuff.[MUSIC PLAYING][RHYTHMIC EXERCISE]

    • 10:47

      SUSAN: It started really with somebodyfor our Christmas present gave me one of these exercise tapes.I used to do it with my sister, just for a laugh.It was just good fun.And from being a good laugh. it turnedinto doing it every night.And at its peak, I was doing it for six hours a night.I would start half three and finish by half nine.

    • 11:11

      SUSAN [continued]: From the moment I wake up, I'm either doing exercise,I'm thinking about it. [Susan] It is a serious problem.I know-- I'm embarrassed about the way I behave.I don't like people really to know that I behave like this.I used to go to the gym to do weight training.But I've come to the point now where

    • 11:31

      SUSAN [continued]: I don't like people watching me when I'm exercising.It's becomes so private that I don't likedoing it with anybody else.I want to really desperately, on one hand, stop what I'm doing.Yet on the other hand, come exercise time,I just go into automatic, and I just do it.

    • 11:50

      SUSAN'S MOTHER: My friends, they have found it a problemto understand why, [Susan's mother] especiallywith my daughter, who was an extremely confidentand outgoing person before.And through this, trying to achieve perfection in her bodyhas totally ruined her life.

    • 12:12

      SUSAN'S MOTHER [continued]: And it's the last person that they may have expectedit to have happened to.Somebody so totally before in control of every situationis now so totally out of control of it.

    • 12:27

      SUSAN: My confidence has taken a nose dive.I do feel like the last couple of yearsI've not achieved anything.So I've totally wasted my life.I just don't feel I can do anything.

    • 12:41

      INTERVIEWER: Except for exercise.

    • 12:43

      SUSAN: Well, and even now, I'm not in control of that either,am I?

    • 12:50

      SIMON KING: I've never been in control of my exercise.I mean, I've woken up in the nightafter overdoing it sometimes in such a nightmare.And I've woken up, and I've still been in the nightmare.And it's carried on for a day or two.And I've not know what it was.I didn't know the body had limits, even.I mean, no one had told me.I was, exercise?Exercise is good for you.Let's-- you know.But I've just gone completely over the top.

    • 13:11

      SIMON KING [continued]: It's as though your mind's gone out of gear slightly, you know,and the engine's racing.I very often end up sitting in the city,just watching things go by, sort of what's happening.And just this tremendous hunger, youknow, because I've just burnt out somewhere.But when I didn't exercise for any reason,my mood would be so intense that it would cause problems

    • 13:31

      SIMON KING [continued]: with those around me.When I get in that mood, I'm extremely vehement.I mean, I'm just cataclysmically so.If anybody wants to poke me in the chest, it's just fireworks.I don't mean physically, but I just completely go of the wall.And there's this real sensation of sort of this demonic static

    • 13:52

      SIMON KING [continued]: around me.And it is either you exercise, or you have an argument.And it's a very detrimental to relationships.It can be, anyway.It was to mine.

    • 14:09

      ANNE BARROWCLOUGH: I became quite ill with a virus.And I was in bed for about a week.But still, twice a day I'd wrap myself in a blanket,and call a cab, and go to the gym.And my sister who I was flatting with at that stagefound out about it and called the gym,and they locked me out, telling me it was for my own good.And I was so frustrated because I couldn't get this high.

    • 14:35

      ANNE BARROWCLOUGH [continued]: At its very worst, I lost all my friends but one.One guy at work said you only exercisebecause you are unfulfilled.And then he changed that, and saidyou are making yourself unfulfilled because youlive for your exercise.And at that stage, I just laughed at himand went to the gym.

    • 14:56

      ANNE BARROWCLOUGH [continued]: But yes, I think I probably was a very unhappy person,because there was no other life for me.

    • 15:05

      SIMON KING: Is it a mental problem?Is it something that has been brought up through my life,or is it something I'm trying to overcompensate for?In my life, there's a lot of thingswhich I can say have made me feelthat I've got low self esteem.Therefore, I have to overachieve.It may be a desire to escape.I don't know.

    • 15:26

      SIMON KING [continued]: That kind of freneticism is what leads to over-exercising.But that itself is born, I think, of a type of fragility.[MUSIC PLAYING][GRUNTS]

    • 15:51

      CHRISTINE TAYLOR: If we wanted to go on holiday,it has to be planned whether there'sa gym, whether there's equipment that he could work out on.When we went to Kenya, it was a 10 hour flight.And all the way there, I was just as worriedas he was as the fact with would there be a gym there whenwe got there?

    • 16:09

      INTERVIEWER: Why were you worried?

    • 16:10

      CHRISTINE TAYLOR: Well, I was worriedbecause I couldn't bear two weeks on holidaywith him if he wasn't training.

    • 16:18

      MARIO WATTS: Go on.[GRUNTS] I didn't honestly think I'd find a gym in Kenya.But I found one in the end.And I did a bit of training there.And if I couldn't train there, I'dsort of find somewhere around the hotelto do a bit of training, a few press ups, a bit of running.I found a little children's playgroundwhere I did some chins, et cetera,

    • 16:39

      MARIO WATTS [continued]: just to keep myself just to keep myself in shape, really.You know.

    • 16:44

      INTERVIEWER: What did Christy think about that?

    • 16:47

      MARIO WATTS: I don't really know.She didn't really say.But I don't think she minded too much.She knows what I'm like.

    • 16:56

      CHRISTINE TAYLOR: He did his dips and chins and sit-ups.By the end of the holiday, he had all the other men doing itwith him.So none of their wives were too happy either.I went back to the room.There they all were doing their press-ups and sit-ups.

    • 17:09

      INTERVIEWER: This is in your room?

    • 17:11

      CHRISTINE TAYLOR: And this was in our room.So it was like I couldn't go in there.I couldn't go in and shower or anythinguntil they'd all finished.There was even a honeymoon couple there.And the man who was on honeymoon spent more time with Mario.

    • 17:27

      RUNNER 2: Do you think that if you put in your schedule,like today, you're going to do 6 miles instead of 10,you'll actually stop at the end of 6, instead of keeping on,just because you feel good?

    • 17:46

      RUNNER 1: It's a good idea.I could try it and see what happens.I think I need to.

    • 17:53

      RUNNER 2: Uh-huh.How can we be sure that you'll do it?I suppose by just trying it.Because let's say you're running along right now,and you're feeling pretty good.You're outside and the wind is in your hair.You're running along--

    • 18:05

      DR. CONNIE CHAN: I think exercise addiction hasdeveloped more in the last 10 to 20 yearsbecause people are dissatisfied with their senseof achievement.Our times are such that many of usfeel that we're not fulfilling ourselves, our true potential.We feel that we're plotting along.I think that exercise addiction comes about as an attemptto feel a sense of achievement, to feel

    • 18:26

      DR. CONNIE CHAN [continued]: that you've accomplished something,and to feel that you're special.[MUSIC PLAYING]

    • 18:47

      GEORGINA HALES: My husband, being Trevor,feels that a woman's place is in the homeand that the woman's main priority should bethe husband and the children.Yes, they've got to be a priority.But I feel not to such a degree as he does.

    • 19:07

      GEORGINA HALES [continued]: First fully encouraged it because he saidit got me out of my bad moods.[Georgina Hales] But now because it takes me out of the house,he's not so keen.I think he'd still like me to do it, but probably to not suchan excess.

    • 19:20

      INTERVIEWER: Do you ever have words with him about it?

    • 19:23

      GEORGINA HALES: We have had words, yes.

    • 19:25

      INTERVIEWER: What sort of words?

    • 19:27

      GEORGINA HALES: Arguments [LAUGHS] rather than words.We've had a lot of words.I think he's becoming to get used to it.He's getting to terms with it.And I try to do it when he's not about.

    • 19:43

      INTERVIEWER: So he doesn't know that you're doing this?

    • 19:45

      GEORGINA HALES: He doesn't know I'll do it to such an extentthrough the day, no.This is my form of relaxing.His form is to sitting at home, so just a parting of the ways,difference of opinion.

    • 20:07

      TREVOR HALES: I made my feelings felt that I thoughtshe was going to extremes.I used to walk around the house with herlike a bear with a sore head, justto let her know that I had the hump with it,but-- [Trevor Hales]

    • 20:20

      INTERVIEWER: What was it preciselythat you had the hump with?

    • 20:24

      TREVOR HALES: The fact that she wanted to be out of the houserather than in it.

    • 20:32

      INTERVIEWER: Out of the house training?

    • 20:33

      TREVOR HALES: Out of the house training, yeah.And I couldn't see the reason for it.You know, I just couldn't at the beginningaccept that all she wanted to do was go out trainingand get a kick out of training.I didn't see any purpose in it.When it used to be the fact that I used to come in from work,and she used to shoo out almost immediately, jogging

    • 20:56

      TREVOR HALES [continued]: or aerobics, it become a bit heavy, to say the least.

    • 21:04

      GEORGINA HALES: Oh, just don't fall.Hiya.

    • 21:06

      TREVOR HALES: How goes it?

    • 21:07

      GEORGINA HALES: All right.

    • 21:08

      TREVOR HALES: Good.Joe, come here.

    • 21:11

      GEORGINA HALES: They've been all right?

    • 21:13

      TREVOR HALES: They have been fine, no problem at all.I know how to look after them.That's why.

    • 21:17

      GEORGINA HALES: [LAUGHS] Years of practice.

    • 21:20

      TREVOR HALES: Come on.We're going to finish this game of cricket, or what?

    • 21:22

      GEORGINA HALES: [INAUDIBLE].

    • 21:26

      SUSAN: Personality-wise, I must have changed.I know I did go through a stage whereI became very aggressive and rude, especially with my mom.I used to yell at people.And when I became very intolerant of noise,especially when I was exercising,if there was a noise, it would just infuriate mebecause I wanted total silence, because I

    • 21:47

      SUSAN [continued]: was so concentrated on the exercise I was doing.Because, you know, I've done this routine for so long now,that anything different, it that causes me to panic.The anxiety of changing it is outweighedby the security of the routine I'm already doing.This desire to get fit became a desire to be thin,

    • 22:11

      SUSAN [continued]: and then the exercising wasn't enough.Obviously, if you're thin, it's gotbe to do with your food intake, as well,so the food became involved.I'd say I have anorexic tendencies in that every time Ihave something to eat, I have to exercise afterwards.And then the two are very closely linked.I think it's just inevitable that it became linked up

    • 22:33

      SUSAN [continued]: with the food.But it is the exercise that worries me.

    • 22:48

      KIM CARTER: I used to be very, very fat,pushing 14 stone on a good day.And I was training then two, three nights a week.It's a wonder my heart survived, really.And I found as the years went by,the weight started to come off.And the more the weight came off,the more I enjoyed the training.And more I trained, the more the weight came off,and life got better, and I could wear nicer clothes.

    • 23:10

      KIM CARTER [continued]: And finally, you get into the bikinion the beach and a size 10.And so it sort of got stuck in my brainthat I needed to exercise to be that sort of person.What you working on?

    • 23:23

      NICK CARTER: Back and biceps.

    • 23:24

      KIM CARTER: Right, OK.Give me a few minutes and I'll slip up and get changedand I'll be with you.I think if anything, it's the biggestproblem in our marriage.

    • 23:32

      NICK CARTER: [INAUDIBLE] OK, I'llsee you in a couple minutes.

    • 23:34

      KIM CARTER: OK, [INAUDIBLE].

    • 23:34

      NICK CARTER: All right, love.

    • 23:35

      KIM CARTER: Nick met me in a gym, trainingand with all the clothes, and the posing,and whatever else goes with that.So in my mind, I got fixed that that wasthe sort of a woman he wanted.[Kim Carter] And I thought, oh my god, he'sattracted to me because I'm x weight and Ilook such and such a way.

    • 23:57

      KIM CARTER [continued]: And I sort of cling to that, and I'm frightened to let that go.I'm frightened to ease off of it and maybenot train so much in case he thinks I'm letting myself go,and I'm going to end up a couch potato or whatever,which I know he finds unattractive.But in a way, the obsessive creatureI become when I'm training is as unattractive.

    • 24:18

      KIM CARTER [continued]: It's--

    • 24:19

      NICK CARTER: See, this is the problem.I train for enjoyment, and I feel better at the end of it.[Nick Carter] I think Kim's lost sight of that, now.I think Kim trains because she has to train.And she has to keep this body imagethat she's got of herself.One last set.

    • 24:38

      KIM CARTER: Oh, god, this hurts.

    • 24:40

      NICK CARTER: Well, don't overdo it then.

    • 24:43

      KIM CARTER: I do an hour of aerobics to a tape before work,then cycle 10 miles or whatever to work,circuit training at lunch time, weights after work, then cyclehome.One day I will have a chest.

    • 24:55

      NICK CARTER: Keep going.Keep going.

    • 24:56

      KIM CARTER: If it didn't hurt, then I was doing no good.And if I saw somebody else doing more than me,I'd have to do that, as well.If I'm injured, I still train.

    • 25:10

      NICK CARTER: I'm just waiting for the daywhen everything comes to a grinding standstill, when sheruns herself down completely.Even a very fit person's got to stop and recuperate some time.But this one's going all the time, aren't you?

    • 25:26

      KIM CARTER: If I don't do any training at all, thenthat affects what I eat, what I wear, the sort of personI feel.And if I don't train very hard, in a way,I lose my own self respect, my self esteem.If I am extremely tired one day, if we're doing weights,I don't lift the same as I lifted the time before,

    • 25:47

      KIM CARTER [continued]: or i don't look as good in the gym,and then the world's the most godawful place to be,and I'm a bitch and a half to live with.If I'm not training, I think I feel fat,and I feel unattractive.But he obviously sees me exactly the same as I was yesterday.

    • 26:08

      INTERVIEWER: What is your relationship with food?

    • 26:13

      KIM CARTER: Odd, to say the least.If I'm not training, I won't eat, or I eat very little.I have been bulimic in the past, which very nearly cameto a very bad end, where I was training excessively, eatingnothing, throwing up what I was eating,

    • 26:33

      KIM CARTER [continued]: and just getting skinnier and skinnier.I'm more or less out of that now.I can eat semi-normally.I can't eat big meals, and I won't eat big meals.And there are certain things I won't touch,and certain things I will touch, depending on whether I'mrunning, or I'm not running, or depending on what sort

    • 26:54

      KIM CARTER [continued]: of training I'm doing.But then I think it's my whole bodyimage that's the problem, not really the food.I still think-- I see myself as totally different to howthe rest of the world sees me.I have to exercise because otherwise, itdoesn't matter what i weigh.I look in the mirror and see something totallydifferent to how I am, and everything is dropping,

    • 27:15

      KIM CARTER [continued]: and it's flabby, and it's loose.It's just awful.Maybe I'm frightened of getting old.I don't know.[MARIO WATTS: (SINGING)] [MUSIC BUDDY HOLLY,"THAT'LL BE THE DAY" ].

    • 27:41

      CHRISTINE TAYLOR: I mean, he gets so upsetabout this whole thing.Oh, my arm's getting small.Or my neck's getting small.In the end, you feel like screaming and saying,for God's sake, why shouldn't they be smaller?

    • 28:15

      CHRISTINE TAYLOR [continued]: He sort of takes it out of me because his trainingisn't going very well.I don't think you could cure or anything like that.I mean, he's been training for nearly 10 years.So as he says, if I have an argument, say God,your training, you know, I'm sick of it.He says, I was doing that long before you came along.That is his answer to everything.

    • 28:35

      MARIO WATTS: That's OK, then.

    • 28:36

      MAN: Yeah, sounds OK.

    • 28:38

      MARIO WATTS: Should we have a go at that Elton John one, then?

    • 28:40

      MAN: [INAUDIBLE].

    • 28:41

      KIM CARTER: One file back from the Sargent, and that was it.So it's not a bad day.

    • 28:45

      NICK CARTER: [INAUDIBLE], really.

    • 28:47

      KIM CARTER: I arrested one drunk,who I said was drunk in charge.I meant drunk and incapable.It's well known.

    • 28:56

      NICK CARTER: No problems then?

    • 28:58

      KIM CARTER: No.Couldn't understand a word he said,so I don't know whether he was rude to me or not, really.Threw his fish and chips at me. [LAUGHS]

    • 29:05

      NICK CARTER: I wouldn't like her to stop training altogether.I'd just like her to slow down, so that wecould have a little more time to enjoy the other things in life.I mean, we have got other things to consider.I mean, we're going to start thinking about familyin the near future.

    • 29:20

      INTERVIEWER: What about a family, Kim?If you have a baby, then presumably,your exercise again will have to take the back seat.

    • 29:27

      KIM CARTER: We've talked about this.And my reaction to that was I can jog uptill the final few weeks.I can still lift weights, but I'll just drop the poundageand not do anything that involves too much strain.And I'll swim a lot, which drive him absolutely scatty,and the family.

    • 29:47

      KIM CARTER [continued]: Yeah, I appreciate I'll have to slow down.But I think in a way, that might be the making of me, when I'vegot something, someone else to think of that I'm actuallycarrying around with me all the time, rather than just me.

    • 30:01

      GEORGINA HALES: Whee.

    • 30:02

      TREVOR HALES: Oh, come on, wicket keeper.

    • 30:03

      GEORGINA HALES: We got my wicker keeper.We missed it.What do we have to do, darling?

    • 30:09

      CHILD: Uh--

    • 30:10

      TREVOR HALES: After a period of time,it just becomes self evident that ithad to be that she'd want to go out training.

    • 30:15

      GEORGINA HALES: Oh!

    • 30:16

      CHILD: Yay!

    • 30:17

      TREVOR HALES: And when she come back from training,she was more relaxed and calm, and agitation had gone.

    • 30:22

      INTERVIEWER: You said you've still got compromise.Could that work the other way, as well?Perhaps Georgina would like to join in with her--

    • 30:28

      TREVOR HALES: No, she doesn't compromise on anything.

    • 30:30

      GEORGINA HALES: [LAUGHS] I compromise.I train through the day, now. [LAUGHS]

    • 30:35

      TREVOR HALES: Ah, [INAUDIBLE].

    • 30:37

      GEORGINA HALES: So, see, I compromise.I used to train in the evenings.

    • 30:39

      TREVOR HALES: That was a convenience,because you went to training school,and you've learned how to teach.And now you've progressed from thatonto teaching, which is done during the day.So that is the only reason you've compromised, really,isn't it?

    • 30:52

      GEORGINA HALES: Well, no, because I could stilltrain in the evenings.I could still go out for a run in the evenings, and I don't.

    • 30:60

      TREVOR HALES: Hm.

    • 31:00

      GEORGINA HALES: But I could do.So I've compromised.

    • 31:03

      TREVOR HALES: Ready?

    • 31:04

      INTERVIEWER: Did either of you everfeel that this exercise thing was beginning justto niggle away at the actual marriage itself?

    • 31:11

      TREVOR HALES: Oh yeah, yes, mm-hm, most definitely.It'd become too important.The house, the home, me, the children were more importantthan exercises.And slowly, one by one, I felt them be coming down the list.And exercise was going up the list, if you like to say.

    • 31:32

      TREVOR HALES [continued]: And yeah, it did.Had a marked effect on it.

    • 31:37

      INTERVIEWER: So you're worried about the marriage lasting?

    • 31:40

      TREVOR HALES: Yeah, yeah.

    • 31:42

      GEORGINA HALES: I suppose you have accepted it.As you said, wish you didn't have to do it,but I accepted it.So we've been through troubled times,but it's sorted itself out, I think, really.

    • 31:52

      INTERVIEWER: You've been through the worst?

    • 31:54

      GEORGINA HALES: Yeah, I think so, definitely.

    • 31:57

      TREVOR HALES: I hope so.I wouldn't bank on it, but I hope so.[LAUGHS] I think I've had to basically adaptinstead of pushing against it, use its own forceto my benefit.I wish I didn't have to do it.But it's not as though I resent it.

    • 32:18

      TREVOR HALES [continued]: It's just part of getting through life, I think.And we all got our cross to bear, and I've got mine.When I get to the pearly gates, St. Peter'sgoing to say why do you think it necessaryyou come through these gates, and I'llsay because I married Georgia Bird.And he'll say, come in, my son.

    • 32:38

      TREVOR HALES [continued]: You've suffered enough.[LAUGHS][JANET COLM (ON RADIO): 94.9] [TL5.] Janet Colm on a Saturdaymorning, and the lines are open.My guest this morning is Dr. Belinda.We're talking relaxation, how you do it, where you do it,and the reasons for doing it.224-2000 if you've got a way of removing

    • 32:58

      TREVOR HALES [continued]: the stresses of the week.And I hope that you like to share with us, or a questionabout how to relax this weekend.

    • 33:06

      CHRISTINE TAYLOR: We don't really plan anything.It's like if I said can we do something tomorrow,he'd probably say, well, tomorrow'sa long time away is usually the answer that I get.

    • 33:17

      MARIO WATTS: Well, you know, my job's quite demanding.I manage a health center, and that's not easy.You know, mentally it can be quite demanding,and you can't always go out and enjoy yourself.You know, there's things you got to do.

    • 33:35

      CHRISTINE TAYLOR: No, but I don't-- the thing withmy argument is I don't want to go out all the time.And I don't pressurize him to take me here,there, and everywhere, do I?

    • 33:44

      MARIO WATTS: Well, we do go out.

    • 33:45

      CHRISTINE TAYLOR: Where?Where do we go?We go to the pictures, and that is about as far as we ever get.I mean, I'd quite like to go rowing on the riveror something like that.And he always says, yes, one day we'll do it.

    • 33:57

      MARIO WATTS: What, just name the day.Just name the day.We'll do it.

    • 33:58

      CHRISTINE TAYLOR: Since the day we first met,he's always been one day, we'll go.And then the day you want to go it's always not today.I just finished training, and I've been to work.What do you want me to do now?You know, I'm not a robot.That's what I always get.

    • 34:13

      INTERVIEWER: What is more important to you, your trainingor Christine?

    • 34:20

      MARIO WATTS: Well, that's a bit of a hard questionto answer, really.Christy obviously means a lot to me,but she was aware of the facts before we met.She knew I trained, and she knew what my lifestyle consist of,but she still, you know, she wanted to be part of it.And you know, under those circumstances,

    • 34:40

      MARIO WATTS [continued]: I can't see what the problem is.

    • 34:44

      CHRISTINE TAYLOR: But you haven't answered the question.

    • 34:48

      MARIO WATTS: Well, I don't know.You know, I say, difficult-- I can't sort of say well,I'd rather train than be with you.I mean, it's not a case of that.It's a case of, you know, fitting theboth together, really.

    • 35:02

      INTERVIEWER: Christy, you answer the question.

    • 35:04

      CHRISTINE TAYLOR: I'd say training, definitely.

    • 35:07

      INTERVIEWER: For you?

    • 35:08

      CHRISTINE TAYLOR: Oh, definitely.Well, if I said right, don't train,and he didn't, then I'd have to face the consequence of sittinghere with someone who's completely miserable because hecould be training instead of being sitting here with us,being sat here with me in the first place.

    • 35:25

      MARIO WATTS: But I mean if you resent my lifestyle,why do you still stay?

    • 35:32

      CHRISTINE TAYLOR: [SIGHS] Well, I might not be staying.

    • 35:35

      MARIO WATTS: Well, no, fair enough.But you stuck it out this long.

    • 35:38

      MAN: Two, three, four.[MARIO WATTS: (SINGING)] [MUSIC RAY PETERSON,"TELL LAURA I LOVE HER"]

    • 35:50

      CHRISTINE TAYLOR: I don't think youfeel very secure with a relationship like that.And I've just been offered a job,so I think I might go away and do that.

    • 36:02

      INTERVIEWER: Leave Mario?

    • 36:03

      CHRISTINE TAYLOR: Yes, yeah.I can't see Mario changing.So I don't think I would come back.[MARIO WATTS: (SINGING)] [MUSIC RAY PETERSON,"TELL LAURA I LOVE HER"]

    • 36:40

      ANNE BARROWCLOUGH: About 14 months ago, Imet somebody who became terribly important to me.So something had to give.And it was exercise, and that was just it.I think there's a monster there, lurking at the back.We very nearly split up last year.

    • 37:03

      ANNE BARROWCLOUGH [continued]: And the day he was due to move out, I actuallythought while I heartbroken, I thought, well,tonight I'll go to the gym.And tomorrow I'll be back in the gym, and I'll just work out.And so it's then, I knew it.Even while I thinking it, I thoughtdon't do this, Barrowclough.You're going to be addicted again.

    • 37:25

      SIMON KING: I'm just frightened of doing exercise now.It's got to a point where-- well, I am.It's just that I'm frightened of sort of dippingmy toe in the water, even.Because it's just the payoff, if it's not right,it's so wrong that it's almost like it's not worth the risk,anymore.

    • 37:43

      SUSAN: I mean, I look at people who left collegeat the same time as me, and they seem to,you know, everything seems to be OK for them.They left college.They went to University.Everything was sorted out.I left college without any real sense of directionand gradually wound up with the whole exercise thing.It gradually took me over.And I don't feel I've progressed, you know,

    • 38:04

      SUSAN [continued]: from one year to the next.I can look back and think, well, I've not achieved anything.

    • 38:12

      INTERVIEWER: Are you happy?

    • 38:16

      KIM CARTER: Oh, yes.Yes, I am.

    • 38:22

      INTERVIEWER: You hesitated.

    • 38:24

      KIM CARTER: I'm not as happy as I could be.If I could wake up in the morning and think, sod it,I'm too tired, I'm aching all over,I'm not going to do anything today, let's go outand have a McDonald's and do ordinary thingsthat ordinary people do when they're on leave-- they relax,have a good time, put their feet up-- then I would be happier.

    • 38:48

      NICK CARTER: So would I. [LAUGHS] I am happy.I'll agree with Kim.If she could do all of those things with me,then that would be the icing on the cake.

    • 38:60

      RUNNER 1: How do you start to feel, you know, your body?

    • 39:03

      RUNNER 2: I don't know.Towards the end?

    • 39:04

      RUNNER 1: Yeah.

    • 39:05

      RUNNER 2: Um, exhilarated, you know, good, pretty much.

    • 39:13

      RUNNER 1: But is it--

    • 39:14

      RUNNER 2: Tired.

    • 39:15

      RUNNER 1: Yeah.

    • 39:15

      RUNNER 2: You know, I'm tired.I can feel the fatigue, so.

    • 39:17

      RUNNER 1: Uh-huh.

    • 39:18

      RUNNER 2: But the fatigue, it usually sets in later.

    • 39:20

      RUNNER 1: Yeah.

    • 39:20

      RUNNER 2: But I feel pretty good mostly, I can say, overall.

    • 39:23

      RUNNER 1: Are you looking forwardto stopping or just continuing?

    • 39:34

      MARIO WATTS: [GRUNTS]Cool.[MUSIC PLAYING][MUSIC PLAYING]

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This BBC production follows the lives and struggles of six people who are addicted to exercise. From romantic relationships to daily routines, the addiction affects all aspects of their lives.

Fit to Drop

This BBC production follows the lives and struggles of six people who are addicted to exercise. From romantic relationships to daily routines, the addiction affects all aspects of their lives.

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